AP: Calif. To Pay Owners To Scrap High-Pollution Cars
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For low income residents, this seems like a pretty sweet deal. Ditch an old polluting guzzler and grab a 2002 Civic/Corolla/etc for around a grand, maybe even free. The text is here, and it looks like all pre-1976 and diesel vehicles will be eligible, as well as specific post-1976 vehicles identified as gross polluters, provided the vehicle in question has been registered for most of the past two years. |
Great, more diesels are gone from the world...
Why not spend all that money on making cleaner diesel fuel? Or investing in bio-fuel alternatives? I don't pretend to know what's best for our country, by any means. But I wish that CARB and the EPA would stop pretending to know as well. |
The problem isn't diesel vehicles, fuel and/or biofuels in general, but older vehicles that are significant pollution sources compared to the majority of vehicles in the state, which includes older diesels. It's also limited to a specific portion of southern CA with the worst air quality and highest population density, because diesels are associated w/ greater NOx production, a precursor to smog. Besides, it isn't like ya can't come over and save a bunch of older diesels if ya wanna, just don't forget your wallet. Anyhoo, CARB and the EPA don't pretend to know what's best for the country, just what's best for air quality in this context. :thumbup:
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And california is going to pay for this with what money? The state is about to pay it's bills next month with IOUs. It is firing state employees by the thousands. It has a $24 billion deficit this year. This is more irresponsible BS from a state gov that can't live within it's means. Give me a break. |
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There's an old statistic I got from my Urban Planning class back in the 1980's. In most urban situations like Los Angeles, 50% of the automobile air pollution comes from 10% of the vehicles, aka the "gross polluters". Sounds like the legislation is hoping to get to these automobiles (1976 or older). I see (or smell) one every day on the freeway. There's a "gross polluter hotline" that you can call to report them (1-800-Cut-Smog). I've written down license plates every now and then, but never made the call. If my Dad still has his 1972 Chevy Impala, this might have been a good way to unload it. CarloSW2 |
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Anyhoo, if my old Toyota pickup gets picked I'd seriously consider the idea since I'm "low income" and $4000 in cash/vouchers would put me about $1000+ away from a 2002/2003 Tacoma w/ a measly 100k miles on it. My 250k mile pickup probably needs about grand in suspension and engine work anyway, so it'd certainly be a nice trade. |
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Anyhoo, different CA programs have different funding methods. AB 118 had specific stipulations regarding how it will be paid and is more or less independent of the state budget because of those stipulations. The programs that don't have specific funding sources are the ones behind the budget shortfall and the ones on the chopping block to at least some extent, barring of course tax increases. |
This isn't a new program, they've been doing it for at least 10 years.
The amount they offer varies some years depending I guess on how much is in the pool from the registration fees collected. The only change is they may offering more next year (though the website is still saying $1000, not $4000) |
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