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aerohead 11-28-2022 12:48 PM

AUDI: Cd 0.10 by 2002-2007
 
' Within the next fifteen, twenty years, I think, 0.10 could be reached, because this Cd value is the same as that of a penguin, a fish/bird that doesn't look very streamlined. In terms of a car, it's a station wagon version. And if nature could build a station wagon at 0.10, then I think, with out development and research, it should be our target to be as good as nature was by itself.'
Dr. Ferdinand Piech, Vice-Chairman, Board of Management, Director of Research and Development, Audi Division, Volkswagen Group, in an interview with Bill Sharfman, page-81, AUTOMOBILE Magazine, November, 1987.
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' (T)he drag of the ( Cd 0.09 ) basic body is achievable. To what extent this can be approached in the development of a production vehicle is therefore more a question of the balance of the requirements of the specification, than of technical feasibility.' Wolf-Heinrich Hucho, December, 1986, Preface, 2nd-Edition, 'AERODYNAMICS OF ROAD VEHICLES.'

freebeard 11-28-2022 01:18 PM

Quote:

...a penguin, a fish/bird that doesn't look very streamlined
We're supposed to take this guy seriously?

aerohead 11-28-2022 02:01 PM

'seriously"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 677385)
We're supposed to take this guy seriously?

Absolutely!
It's bio-mimicry, where manned flight came from, airships, blimps, aerostats, submarine external hulls, fuselage, wing tanks, belly tanks, canopies, blisters, fairings, radomes, torpedoes, suppositories, valves, acoustic stealth, fans, pumps, turbines, keels, control surfaces, helicopter rotor counterbalance fly-weights, air-brakes, etc..
When you figure out how a peregrine falcon has 1-1/2-pounds of aerodynamic drag at 257-mph, you get the gist.
' ... the aerodynamicist must refer to a large amount of detail resulting from earlier development work.' Wolf-Heinrich Hucho, Preface, 2nd-Edition, AERODYNAMICS OF ROAD VEHICLES, December, 1986.
The Aerodynamic Streamlining Template has the peregrine falcon as an antecedent.
Trailing-edge technology!;)

freebeard 11-28-2022 02:12 PM

No beef with biomimicry.

Calling a penquin a fish is akin to California's logic

Quote:

https://www.cnn.com › 2022 › 06 › 06 › us › california-bees-fish-court-ruling-scn-trnd › index.html
California bees can legally be fish and have the same protections, a ...
6 Jun 2022(CNN) A fishy ruling from California: A California court has ruled bees can legally be considered fish under specific circumstances. The ruling, released May 31, reversed an earlier...

Phase 11-29-2022 02:22 PM

Didn’t Mercedes say the new eqxx was also shaped and sculpted by nature?

freebeard 11-29-2022 03:07 PM

How far back do you want to go with Mercedes?

The 2005 Bionic?

1923 Benz Tropfenwagen (Rumpler patent, Porsche co-design)?

IRONICK 12-05-2022 05:09 AM

The design must be accepted by consumers.
The drivers still want beautiful cars, not economical ones.
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