Bears! Camper trailers! Tents!
 

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A tent will protect you from a bear about as well as a soft taco shell protects the contents of a taco.

And a travel trailer will protect you from a bear about as well as a hard taco shell protects the contents of a taco :-)

E.g. Bear rips into Elliot Lake couple's travel trailer | Sudbury Star

The camper just gives you enough time to ready your firearm.
If you didn't bring a firearm, then welcome to the food chain.

We can rise above life in the food chain: A basalt mesh-reinforced Kevlar shell with a metallic foil Faraday cage lining and external electrodes charged to 20Kv.

Bulletproof and it leaves a metallic taste on your tongue. :thumbup:

Anything smaller than an anti-tank weapon is likely to just piss off the bear, at least if you're shooting head-on.

Even the biggest bears are no match for a standard 30 caliber rifle at close range. It's the handguns that have issues.

I was thinking something more along the lines of a shotgun. As long as it's not one of those gigantic Alaska brown bears.

I am confused. Are these bears eating your trailer?

That depends. If you are hunting, and can shoot the bear from the side, yes. If the bear is coming straight at you, there's a good chance that (even if you can keep your nerve and actually hit it) the bullet will glance off the skull.

No, it's just that some people seem to have gotten the idea that an ordinary camping trailer will protect you from a bear. Which is strange, since camping trailers are pretty flimsy, and bears are pretty strong. The live trap that the NDOW uses to catch problem bears is a cylinder made of about 1/4 inch stainless steel.

The other thing is that bears generally do not regard humans as food. Keep food away from where you sleep, and you're not likely to have problems. But of course lots of people store food and cook inside their trailers, which makes them bear bait.

Personally, I've had about half a dozen fairly close encounters with bears. (The closest being literally arms length away.) In every case (except one where I don't think the bear even realized I was there), the bear just turned and walked away.

I know that the idiots running wild life management in Virginia, a place where I like to vacation "wants to have bears be as plentiful as deer".
So the government is ensuring there will be more of these kinds of bear and human encounters.

Maybe the intent is to keep the deer population down?

5-10,000 lumens of strobe lighting. Cheaper to operate than a firearm.

My 300WSM won't glance on anything, but the best defence would be a simple AR15 and 30 rounds of rapid fire. I like the stopping power of the mag but only 3 rounds and a bolt action means the first shot better be good. In the confines of a camper the AR is the way to go for bears or whatever that comes in to do you harm.
As far as topic goes, just did a 3 yard load to the dump with the $700 utility trailer my brother bought 20 years ago. Also the advantage of a trial er over a truck, he would be never let me take his $50k new F150 to the dump, but the whole family uses the heck out of that little trailer

The noise from a gun alone would likely repel a bear. How many people have been killed from a bear after firing several rounds into one? They might be tough, but they still have an aversion to pain and fear.

I'll just plop this video here for your viewing pleasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WWiPiks1sU


Proof that you're a BA. I'd consider myself invincible at this point.

It's not intent, it's stupidity.

Fire it at a rock with about a 30 degree slant sometime.

Oh, well. I guess you may get your Darwin Award :-)

Nope, just the opposite. I know I'm not, so I don't have to strut around with an arsenal trying to prove it :-) (And I do carry bear spray when appropriate.

I don't want to go whining to the mods; but if one of you doesn't show some remorse and have the last 2 or 3 pages split off into a new thread in The Lounge, I might.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...2-100-1065.jpg

Feel free to split it off. I have no idea how to do it myself...

You are starting to sound more like just a plain ass not a BA.
Way off topic to start pulling out ballistic charts but the 5.56 flat out beats anything the average Harry carries in a handgun for bear defense like say the .44 magnum. It's just difficult to walk around with an AR, but we weren't talking walking around, we were talking camper defense. Many Alaskans use the AR for defense and they have even taken down charging polar bears. It's easy to use and rapid fire so you can miss a few and still get the point across. Plus a .44 mag doesn't hold 30 rounds.

I'd take my AR every day over my 7-08 for tent or camper duty, and I'd take the 9mm Glock I practice/shoot the most with over a 5-6 shot 44 that is difficult to shoot well/expensive to pratice = no pratice, the Glock is easier to carry and shoot well, easy to carry = more likely to carry = its there when you need it. If I lived in a area where it was a concern a 10mm glock/1911 would be my choice for carry, AR for camping tent duty, but maybe 6.8 or 300 instead of 5.56.

My cargo hauling is done in relatively secure areas and doesn't involve fighting anything off. Doing things that way is just plain inefficient.

Opinions are just that. I prefer hard data, e.g. https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ence_in_Alaska and Efficacy of Bear Deterrent Spray in Alaska - SMITH - 2008 - The Journal of Wildlife Management - Wiley Online Library
(Links are to abstracts: full PDFs can be found with Google)

There will be a lot fewer repeat offenders if they encounter a human with a firearm.

Where I am from, Maine we are the only state where you can hunt bear with dog, trap and bait. All hunting licenses come with a "bear tag". The animal rights lunatics tried to change that law some time around 2006, so it was put on referendum. It was voted down in flames, 80% were against changing the law.
That is how I am used to dealing with them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRm12EuGflo


Man walks around 9 wild bears like it's NBD


This ^^^...

Is "this" in the making... (below)


Timothy Treadwell Incident--A Full Report and Examination

There's a lesson to be learned here...

Don't mess with bears...

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My friend a mile or so away has a "regular" bear. Houses on her hill are spread out and the main animals are goats and chickens. My neighborhood is a little denser and has more dogs so the bears stay away. Like the joke goes, I don't have to outrun the bear...

Yeah, we get them around here in the fall, when there's a lot of windfall fruit around. Kinda funny: when I bought this place about 20 years ago, we'd closed the sale but the previous owner was still living here, and about 6:30 one morning she phones me to say "There's a great big bear sitting on YOUR patio" :-)