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Hi everyone I own 2 civic vx, and always read about how everyone likes 0-20w oil. My Cars only run one type of oil for all 4 Cars and that's 5w40 syn rottela t6 by shell. You can buy it at wall mart anyways that's the best oil out there and I hope others here will try it out. This oil I belive will make my motor last till 1 million miles easy. If you never heard about this oil Google it and I been using this oil for the last 5 years with Excellent results. I use it mostly because of my race car but since it's proven so great on it I use it on all my cars.

nice sales pitch.... "This oil I belive will make my motor last till 1 million miles easy." really??????

I dont make any money from shell or Wal-Mart. I dont care what oil you use in your car. Just wanting to let everyone know my experience and they can make their own decisions. That's why I said you can google the oil and read about all the great reviews in all the different forum's and many people have done independent testing. I know the eco crowd likes the light oils for mpgs , but as a technician I would not use it on my cars all 90s modle and with higher mileage. If it sounds like a sales pitch then great go buy it and try it.

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How has it been objectively better than other oils?

please substantiate this claim:
"This oil I belive will make my motor last till 1 million miles easy."

have you torn down the engine and measured the wear on the parts?
Did you measure the parts prior to running the engine?
how are you determining the viability of your claim?

interesting article.
Can Your Car Last 1,000,000 Miles? - Autoblog

outside of the word maintainace (which IMPLIES oil changes) there was no mention of the word 'oil'.

What is the Best Synthetic Oil? - Best Synthetic Oil Guide
#5 Castrol

Castrol_Logo_1968Castrol EDGE Synthetic Motor Oil – This brand, now owned by British Petroleum (BP) is one of the better marketers to the high performance throne. Castrol really focus on “additives” and from “Syntec” are now starting to promote “Titanium”. Remember “Magnetic”, then “Syntec” now “Titanium”. They must buy their Base Oils if PAO Group IV or Group V. Castrol is popular amongst racing teams and car manufacturers, and offers higher performance than mid-range synthetic motor oils, while still being slightly less expensive than the top of the line oils.

#4 Pennzoil

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Platinum Pennzoil Full Synthetic Motor Oil – With its proprietary PurePlus™ formula, Pennzoil Platinum synthetic motor oils convert natural gas into a mixture that creates cleaner pistons and a smoother functioning engine is their claim. So, they at least share what Base Stocks they use, Group III, not Group IV, so can claim “synthetic” but also focus a lot on additive technology. They buy their base stocks so are benders so not sure why they claim they do it?

#3 Royal Purple

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Royal Purple Synthetic Motor Oil – Very interesting as they market both API Performance products and others that should only be used after your car/engine warranty has expired. Why for the latter? Because they increase the antiwear additive content above the requirement for control of exhaust emissions when new! So, if you have an older car and don’t mind maybe increasing your emissions then go for the Fully Synthetic Base Oil options as you’ll still get all the other benefits.

#2 AMSOIL

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Makes the claim of being the first to market Full Synthetic Engine Oil. Not sure, but still believe they buy all their Base Stocks and then blend with purchased additives? So, if they utilise Group IV PAO plus maybe some Group V in their products, gotta be a great oil with their experience!

#1 Mobil 1

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Mobil 1 Synthetic Motor Oil – Mobil is the only oil company and brand that I know that has been involved in the research, development, manufacture and marketing of synthetic base stock and synthetic oils since the 1960’s to this day. They actually make all the different types of base stocks covering Group I, II, III, IV & V from Conventional Mineral to Synthetic. I believe the Mobil 1 family is the best synthetic oil as this is what Mobil have been doing for over 40 years – sort of “homegrown” synthetic engine oil! Many other brands are companies that buy base oils and technology and then resell!

Also, did you know that PAO’s from Mobil are so clean that they can be classified as Technical White Oil for Incidental Food Contact with both Kosher and Halal approvals?

I read something similar about Mobile One some years ago, and have been using Mobile One 0w20 ever since.

Yeah, I don't believe in a "best" oil. Especially calling a single weight the best. Most engines will have some parts that like a certain weight, and other parts that prefer a different weight.

Then there's the whole additive deal, which is a sad story these days. I generally run my engine on 0w-20, for fuel economy and cold starts (5w-20/5w-30) is specified. But my little "opinion" is run something thin, and synthetic, and toop it off with a little blue bottle of STP oil stabilizer. It's thicker than I'd like, although I've had no measurable side effect... but the STP is NOT for an odd2.. it's full of zinc and is good for the engine and bad for the cat.

You gotta pick the lesser evil with oils. But as long as you change it and maintain your car, your average ford or Honda will totally do 500k on cheap oil and filters without new parts. I like my engine perfect, but I honestly don't think paying for synthetics is cost effective, unless you don't do your own repairs, AND drive an expensive car.
Over 300k miles, that's 100 oil changes. $20 for conventional, $40 synthetic at fit prices. Over 300k, conventional oil could save you $2,000.

I drive an escort, so an engine failure costs me like 200 bucks plus new gaskets lol

I think it's pretty clear that guy gets his retirement checks from Mobile Oil... if not his non-retirement checks
I personally by whatever semi-synthetic is on sale. Most recently $25 for 5 quarts of Valvoline high mileage semi-syn and a Wix filter. Good to go.

^ I can consistently get 5 quarts of Mobile One 0w20 at WalMart for $25, and that's good for just shy of two oil changes in my car.

I'm not a chemist, but I used to change oil at Valvoline, avoid their semi synthetics like the plague. The semi sludges faster than anything, and the full is about 30% synthetic.
On the little Valvoline charts, their conventional does as well as the semi synthetic, and the full doesn't do much better.
They make GREAT transmission fluid and racing oil. But holy crap don'tt use their semi synthetics.

You can SMELL, Valvoline semi synthetic. As crude and unscientific as my claim, you notice a "smell" from cars that haven't had their oil changed for 8-15k miles. The max life semi would get that smell earlier than any other we saw. All of the employees with fords complained of valve train noise, and others would complain about the extreme oil consumption.

The corporate managers would make a big deal to use the semi in their cars, because they knew ALL of the employees had suspicions of the semi synthetic. Not saying oil techs are geniuses but we've drained the oil out of thousands of cars, and we know what we saw lol. I use Valvoline oils, but NOT the semi synthetic maxlife.

I want to sayy the Valvoline evaporation point for some of its additives etc is about 30-50°f lower than other brands, and that was the main factor. But there were a couple good points to it too. But overall, the bad points of the oil were too bad to ignore.

Valvoline makes good stuff, their racing oil is great, and their conventional is arguably the best conventional. The semi synthetic is a slyly worded profit game. Pennzoil makes a good semi synthetic, and platinum is good from what I remember. I don't hate Valvoline, just the maxlife.

Wow I poked a hole in a bee hive. My back ground is a technician since 2004 working on cars and now I work as a fleet technician on one of the most abused fleet in america. My hobby is racing my turbo miata and I am very particular about what oils and fluids I use to keep this thing in top shape. I was at one point only using royal purple oils and other high end oils but after much research and talking with other racers and again research online and knowing pros that have had oil tested after sever track seasons abuse it seems for the price there is nothing better.. this oil may be overkill on my little vx but I figure if it can withstand track abuse then it's going in my daily. I could care less about what you put in your engine just sharing my thoughts with this forum and hope it will help others. I live in the south and I know up north the 0-20w will be best for severe winters. I know people here trying to squeeze every bit of mpg to save money and I know a good oil will keep that engine happy for many miles and that's my plan, drive this 93vx till 1 million miles non of the new cars come close to vx mpg and cost of ownership and as a technician that's why I own 2. The other is my wife 96 odyssey van and the miata turbo. All get the same oil. Everyone has a opinion on what oil they use or love, mine is the shell rottela t6.

I'm very open to new information about oils, but I don't tend to take testimonials very seriously. That's not to say you're not welcome to share, but some teardown pics or hard data would be appreciated.

Please research rotella t6 on Google or YouTube look and read the many forum's. Just like I come here to learn more about getting better mpg information about my civic vx or other great mpg cars, there are many forum memebers that review t6 and have done oil analysis to back up data. Just normal people like members here take samples of oils they try and test different kinds and so far the t6 has come up top many many times and for how cheap and easy it is to find it is.. do a simple search and see or take my word on it. On my turbo miata my personal experience is the oil pressure would not drop as bad when hot and racing as it would with other oils I have used.

I got best results with Honda Green oil which is even thinner than 0w20.
Sadly Honda does no longer support it, but regular 0w20 is close. Winter economy suffered marginally.

But then I do not race my car. It seldom sees revs over 2000.

you don't get it do you?

I actually DID research and google and then you come back (without answering our questions and ask US to google.

Why don't you do some work and provide some FACTS as requested by two posters.

We are a GREAT fact believing community.
We follow the theory of ABA testing.

I did work I posted here for everyone to know what the best oil is. I am not going to spoon feed you. I'm not going to pull apart my engine for you to be happy there are plenty of videos on YouTube and pictures on forum's to see results, also many bikers and diesel guys love this oil as well.. since you said you Google t6 why don't you post what you found. That would be more helpful to everyone else here. Since all I have done is provided the end result of all that work.. what's the point of re inventing the wheel. For everyone else reading try it out if you don't like it or get horrible mpg with this oil then add to the post thanks.. I may be willing to sacrifice 1 mpg for the extra protection.

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What i would consider to be a high quality oil is AC DELCO Supreme Plus 5W30 Fully Synthetic. At one stage, i was buying 5L off ebay for £20, but now for some reason it has almost disappeared of the shelves (or gone up vastly in price). It doesn’t smell like regular oil and after a 8000 miles, still come out clean from my cam-chained engine. Ultimately, i think its false economy using very high-end oils other than on high performance engines, but i also want to get the best out of my little 1L as well.
I think the original post does sound a bit of a planted advertisement for the manufactures.

........I googled "best synth oil". AND I posted my results. That's how REAL research works... :rolleyes: ...you don't assume an answer.
ESPECIALLY when the 'answer' is being provided without any documentation or proof.:eek:

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oh.......now I'm convinced.....:rolleyes:

friends of yours.......:eek: :thumbup: :rolleyes:

Thanks for the heads up, but I still will buy it if it's what the deal of the month is. I don't let my oil go forever, I'm in the buy cheep oil and change it more often camp. In my navy days we did all kind of testing and purification of oil used on 100,000+ horsepower engines that go a million miles and use turbines that spin 30,000 rpm with 1400 degree steam. I'm sure we bought oil from the lowest cost supplier and went by color more then anything else. I'm sure my Subaru that seldom sees 3000 rpm or 1/2 throttle will be fine on 3000-5000 miles of any oil.