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conor_v 07-21-2019 09:08 PM

Beware of posting eco-mods on Reddit
 
I thought I would just start a thread here warning you all of how nasty people are on sites other than Ecomodder. I posted a lot of my eco-mods to reddit before deciding to join here and boy was that a mistake. I cannot even post on the volt subreddit without people immediately down voting me regardless of what I am saying all because of my eco-mod posts. Not everyone is as accepting of our way of life and our quest for better MPG. The biggest comment from people on my posts was how my modifications were "dangerous" and "illegal." Neither of those were obviously true. Everything I have done has followed in the way of those who have tested it before me with my own personal flair due to vehicle differences. Anybody have any similar stories from other sites?

oil pan 4 07-21-2019 09:31 PM

Reddit is the middle school lunch table of the Internet.
Most non hybrid and electric vehicle sites are like that until you get into like big block chevy stuff. I posted about my tuning adventures with my 7.4L to get better highway cruise mpg by lean tuning carb with a wide band O2 meter and not giving up any power. They didn't hate it that much.

conor_v 07-21-2019 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by oil pan 4 (Post 602533)
Reddit is the middle school lunch table of the Internet.

well said

slowmover 07-21-2019 10:44 PM

Reddit was okay as it got started in the run-up to the 2006 mid-term elections. Links to reading is what it was. Soon as the Dems won and did nothing, Reddit was “sold” and became the joke it’s been ever since.

On rare occasion I’ll have a link given me or a search will have a link to something on Reddit. In those 13-years no link has proven worthy of following.

Middle school is right. The dumb kids from divorced families.

That it now bans speech it finds theologically-incorrect means it’s as disgustingly unAmerican (and unChristian) as Facebook or Google or Twitter or the others. It’s function is destruction.

Besides, reducing fuel burn is more about NOT starting the car. No more unthinking casual use. That, and garaging it, are where the money really is. Reducing the number of vehicles owned over a lifetime is Economy.

But here, there, every other vehicle forum one runs into their all-important “feelz”. TV is their daddy, and daddy tells them they’re perfect as they are.

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Vman455 07-22-2019 12:02 AM

You should ask "techtornado" what his opinion is on truck tire retreads, animals crossing the road outside of areas designated by signage, and where the "potentially hot exhaust" hurt him.

You should also ask him why, if he's so certain that anything and everything falling off a car will cause an exhaust fire, Pennsylvania law specifically allows "the shedding or dropping of feathers or other matter from vehicles hauling live or slaughtered birds or animals" [PA Consolidated Statutes Title 75, Section 4903 (e) (2)].

Also, I LOLed at "death discs." These people have apparently never seen coroplast before.

oil pan 4 07-22-2019 01:48 AM

If home made plastic wheel covers that weigh almost nothing are dangerous what the hell are those metal wheel covers used from the 1950s through now?
Remember these people likely live pay check to pay check if they have a job and probably think 14mpg is cool in a vehicle only moving a single person.

Stubby79 07-22-2019 04:40 AM

You won't find any love from any but specialized communities like EM. They'll crap all over you for anything that doesn't conform to their narrow view; doesn't matter what subject or how good of an idea it is. How dare you think outside the box?

Unless you enjoy a pointless argument, which might end up ugly, stick with places that have an audience who will appreciate your efforts. Nothing to gain from the other side.

rmay635703 07-22-2019 08:21 AM

Most people find actual conservation an affront to their lifestyle and are easily offended by anything that isn’t done exactly the same way they would do it.

I have 2 nearby picky neighbors in a tift because one fills the whole front yard (all 8’ of it) with flowers and pots and whatnot, which resulted in the town getting a complaint (assumably from the other neighbor) cause pots can’t be a certain distance from road or lot line.
Other neighbor has a complaint against them now because their “hedge plants” are too close as well and it goes back and forth.

Nothing like mental mudgets fighting a war and what’s worse is that the town loves and encourages neighbors to behave that way and enjoys sending the white van out to provide guidance on how they should alter their landscaping, if the town beautification person could spend their entire week doing this they would be in 7th heaven.

They gave up on me, I have only grass now and have been forced to apply roundup around my foundation and pull any vegetation near the foundation because of complaints that weeds were growing between my step and sidewalk, I removed my one bush and keep everything mowed down, since obviously it’s real ecological to apply roundup because some might see a strand of 6” + vegistation and that would be very disturbing.

ksa8907 07-22-2019 08:54 AM

What they said.

Narrow minded folks will always be angry when someone has a differing opinion, take a look at the US political climate for evidence.

redpoint5 07-22-2019 12:37 PM

If I ever had a band name, "Dangerous and Illegal" would be a great name. That, or "Well Disposed Savages" - ‎Meriwether Lewis.

Doesn't bother me what other people think so much. I'd like to think I have an ear open for reasonable criticism, and part of that means ignoring the uninformed and malicious comments.

conor_v 07-22-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vman455 (Post 602548)
You should ask "techtornado" what his opinion is on truck tire retreads, animals crossing the road outside of areas designated by signage, and where the "potentially hot exhaust" hurt him.

You should also ask him why, if he's so certain that anything and everything falling off a car will cause an exhaust fire, Pennsylvania law specifically allows "the shedding or dropping of feathers or other matter from vehicles hauling live or slaughtered birds or animals" [PA Consolidated Statutes Title 75, Section 4903 (e) (2)].

Also, I LOLed at "death discs." These people have apparently never seen coroplast before.

haha you looked it up? Funny stuff right? At first I was kind of offended and second guessed myself on my methodology... however now when I look at all the comments and the stuff people said it just makes me laugh like no tomorrow! That rundmcarlson guy was super cool. Came to my aid and went down swinging. We ended up messaging privately and turns out he is working on his own Volt rear fender skirts. Had CAD files and everything! I guess not everyone is so closed minded on the internet. I'm really glad I found this site!

conor_v 07-22-2019 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rmay635703 (Post 602555)
Most people find actual conservation an affront to their lifestyle and are easily offended by anything that isn’t done exactly the same way they would do it.

I have 2 nearby picky neighbors in a tift because one fills the whole front yard (all 8’ of it) with flowers and pots and whatnot, which resulted in the town getting a complaint (assumably from the other neighbor) cause pots can’t be a certain distance from road or lot line.
Other neighbor has a complaint against them now because their “hedge plants” are too close as well and it goes back and forth.

Nothing like mental mudgets fighting a war and what’s worse is that the town loves and encourages neighbors to behave that way and enjoys sending the white van out to provide guidance on how they should alter their landscaping, if the town beautification person could spend their entire week doing this they would be in 7th heaven.

They gave up on me, I have only grass now and have been forced to apply roundup around my foundation and pull any vegetation near the foundation because of complaints that weeds were growing between my step and sidewalk, I removed my one bush and keep everything mowed down, since obviously it’s real ecological to apply roundup because some might see a strand of 6” + vegistation and that would be very disturbing.

That is absurd. I'm sorry to hear. People can be so petty about the dumbest things and I think it is because they probably have nothing better to be doing other than complaining about someone else. Just let people do what makes them happy so long as it is not hurting someone else is my motto.

Fat Charlie 07-22-2019 08:40 PM

Um, since the Volt is focused on economy, wouldn't increasing its economy be a performance upgrade?

Or is that forum just filled with wannabe riceboys who want their moms' backup cars to be the fastest things in their high school parking lots?

conor_v 07-22-2019 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Charlie (Post 602605)
Um, since the Volt is focused on economy, wouldn't increasing its economy be a performance upgrade?

Or is that forum just filled with wannabe riceboys who want their moms' backup cars to be the fastest things in their high school parking lots?

You bring up a great point. I had not thought about it in that way but it is definitely an upgrade in that sense for sure!

conor_v 07-22-2019 11:45 PM

I am actually really tempted to continue posting now just for the lolz... Bad idea?

cowmeat 07-23-2019 07:04 AM

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Beware of posting eco-mods on Reddit
Here, I fixed your title:

Beware of posting on Reddit

Fat Charlie 07-23-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by conor_v (Post 602621)
I am actually really tempted to continue posting now just for the lolz... Bad idea?

Troll, baby, troll. :thumbup:

vskid3 07-23-2019 02:50 PM

The Volt and Prius subreddits have some decent posts and comments, but there's a lot of less decent content to sift through. Dedicated forums like PriusChat and GM-Volt are much better places to spend your time. The best thing about Reddit is that one account lets you post on just about any topic; I don't want to have to make an account on a different forum every time I need some help or want to show off how I fixed something.

fusion210 07-23-2019 05:32 PM

I've found that modifications have to be pretty aesthetically pleasing to win non modders over.

Perhaps that was their true issue.

conor_v 07-23-2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cowmeat (Post 602629)
Here, I fixed your title:

Beware of posting on Reddit

LMAOOO

conor_v 07-23-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fusion210 (Post 602686)
I've found that modifications have to be pretty aesthetically pleasing to win non modders over.

Perhaps that was their true issue.

I can imagine that is definitely true. The funny thing is that I don't care how my car looks all that much! We chase miles not looks, right? Plus I just post so I can hopefully inspire someone else who is curious about ecomodding their car. I know when I was researching this topic I could barely find anything regarding ecomodding Volts. I wanted to help fill that gap and provide some resource for people with Volts looking to ecomod!

Also catch me on the Volt subreddit from time to time trolling the crowd ;) I'll keep it a low-key troll so they do not catch on to the scheme.

freebeard 07-23-2019 07:40 PM

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I thought I would just start a thread here warning you all of how nasty people are on sites other than Ecomodder. .... Anybody have any similar stories from other sites?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Internet+hate+machine

News at eleven, amiright?

One can parse [WWW] Internet into news aggregators and social media. The former are less toxic. Social media is poison to the human spirit. The closest thing to a pre-WWW Internet is 4chan.

News aggregators would rank with Slashdot at the top, likely the first, and still with the best moderation system. You can browse and see everything or just the most informative/insightful comments. Fark.com and boingboing.net round out the original three. Digg.com came along and there was a lot of drama that birthed Reddit. Reddit's innovation was that anyone could create a new subreddit.
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We chase miles not looks, right?
https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-f...5-100-1036.jpg

Vman455 07-23-2019 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by conor_v (Post 602595)
haha you looked it up? Funny stuff right?

I had to see for myself; it was everything I hoped for and then some. Your car looks great, BTW.

In case anyone else is wondering, here's a representative comment, from the aforementioned "techtornado":

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Bro, I warned you to be very careful about improvising upon the design without adhering to the rules and regs of the road. Now, for the second time, you've created a potentially flammable and definite road debris flinging machine that is only going to cause more headache than to work as a solution to a problem.

If the plastic air-dam is of the wrong type of material that is not properly fire-retardant due to X automobile standards, it will ignite on contact with the hot exhaust.

Plus, it is probably not road legal due to the material type and attachments with... velcro, you were instructed and admonished for not investigating NY state laws as well as any possible federal mandates on lower-body modifications. [This should have been step 1]

Go to an auto shop that specializes in aerodynamics with a team of engineers dedicated on improving upon Chevy's design, not Big Ed's slap-it, ship-it redneck shop.

Otherwise, quit overthinking it and just enjoy your car!
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Make sure you check those non-existent federal regulations on lower-body modifications. And for heaven's sake, stop thinking!

freebeard 07-23-2019 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by techtornado
Go to an auto shop that specializes in aerodynamics with a team of engineers dedicated on improving upon Chevy's design, not Big Ed's slap-it, ship-it redneck shop.

So, NASCAR today, not NASCAR in the 1950s?

I came back to mention the beginnings of the Web. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suck.com Be aware the suck.com domain has bee repurposed. I still recall the ragged right and left margins and Terry Colon's work.

vskid3 07-23-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vman455 (Post 602700)
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Make sure you check those non-existent federal regulations on lower-body modifications. And for heaven's sake, stop thinking!

Think of the children! An air dam made of the wrong plastic will kill far more people than a lifted truck that has a winch sitting at the height of the average vehicle occupant's head (but seriously, if that's legal, why even have safety standards?).

conor_v 07-23-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vman455 (Post 602700)
I had to see for myself; it was everything I hoped for and then some. Your car looks great, BTW.

In case anyone else is wondering, here's a representative comment, from the aforementioned "techtornado":



There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Make sure you check those non-existent federal regulations on lower-body modifications. And for heaven's sake, stop thinking!

Hey thanks!! I laugh harder every time I read that HA! Aside from all the crap he spewed about non existent laws regarding vehicle modifications, my favorite line is "just enjoy your car!" Eco-modding IS me enjoying my car.

conor_v 07-23-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vskid3 (Post 602705)
Think of the children! An air dam made of the wrong plastic will kill far more people than a lifted truck that has a winch sitting at the height of the average vehicle occupant's head (but seriously, if that's legal, why even have safety standards?).

You know what has killed more people than flying road debris (do you know how many OEM plastic hub caps I've seen on the side of the road... just saying)??


Air pollution

*mic drop*

Fat Charlie 07-24-2019 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by conor_v (Post 602707)
You know what has killed more people than flying road debris (do you know how many OEM plastic hub caps I've seen on the side of the road... just saying)??


Air pollution

*mic drop*

Do you remember when the OE ones were metal and had some real heft to them? You couldn't go anywhere without seeing one on the side of the road.

Xist 07-24-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oil pan 4 (Post 602533)
Reddit is the middle school lunch table of the Internet.

I vote that becomes the new thread title, but it seems to apply to much of the Internet.

Unless a cool kid likes it, it gets downvoted.

I have seen many posts receive thousands of upvote on Imgur and someone responds "What the heck?! I posted this here [links original] and just got downvoted! This guy reposts it and gets thousands of upvotes!"

"Shut up whiner!"

I just remember Benny making classic hubcaps disappear.

The guy writes like he is the one-man volunteer H.O.A. that cannot do anything but send letters.

freebeard 07-24-2019 12:22 PM

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I just remember Benny making classic hubcaps disappear.
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Originally Posted by DDG
Hooked On Music Lyrics - Mac Davis - Cowboy Lyrics
https://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/...sic-27749.html
I'm stealing fancy hubcaps off them cowboys' pickup trucks. Fender skirts and mud flaps anything to make a buck. I'll sell 'em right back to 'em out behind the rodeo. Just to make a little money to take my little honey to a rock and roll show. Well I hung around that skating rink where Buddy Holly played.

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Xist 07-24-2019 12:34 PM

I referred to "Benny and Joon."

MetroMPG 07-24-2019 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by conor_v (Post 602689)
I know when I was researching this topic I could barely find anything regarding ecomodding Volts.


I hope you found this thread...


https://ecomodder.com/imgs/volt-moon-discs.jpg



Thread: Photoshop fun: GM Volt with racing disc wheel covers (and fender skirts.. and more!)







Unfortunately, some of the other photos in that thread hosted on 3rd party image hosting sites have disappeared.

conor_v 07-25-2019 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 602758)
I hope you found this thread...


https://ecomodder.com/imgs/volt-moon-discs.jpg



Thread: Photoshop fun: GM Volt with racing disc wheel covers (and fender skirts.. and more!)



Unfortunately, some of the other photos in that thread hosted on 3rd party image hosting sites have disappeared.

I have seen that picture but not the thread. Some of those photo-shopped images made me laugh a little but I really like the silver wheel covers and the fender skirts. I am currently working on designing the fender skirts however it is a bit of a challenge to do as you cannot just slap a flat board over the wheel arch due to the tires poking out past the car body. Why Chevy Why!?

MetroMPG 07-26-2019 01:31 PM

Too bad - that wheel arch looked like a good, flat platform.

freebeard 07-26-2019 02:02 PM

Cut up two of these:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Dish+TV+antenna

electric_ride 01-21-2021 02:00 PM

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I may need to start a new thread and if so no problem . But any ideas on what I can do to this truck to help my MPGs? I am not complaining at all as I get 19 to 24 with a supercharged Hemi. But if I can get a few more MPGs that is a good thing.

redpoint5 01-21-2021 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by electric_ride (Post 641271)
I may need to start a new thread and if so no problem . But any ideas on what I can do to this truck to help my MPGs? I am not complaining at all as I get 19 to 24 with a supercharged Hemi. But if I can get a few more MPGs that is a good thing.

Best to start your own mod thread so it doesn't get buried in non-related stuff.

Plenty of options available from simple things like increasing tire pressure, to complex aero builds. Generally, little things deliver little improvements, and massive things deliver massive improvements.


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