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Piwoslaw 07-09-2010 08:24 AM

Blocking the sun in sunroof
 
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Our car has a so-called Solar Roof, a tinted glass that replces 2/3 of the roof:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...9&d=1246610752

Inside there are 3 panels that slide in the ceiling to block off the light.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...3&d=1278676679 http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...4&d=1278676679

This helps while driving, and makes it warmer in the winter. But on the top side those panels are black, so they get pretty hot in the summer. So in the spirit of Aerohead's Solar Sombrero, I glued aluminum foil to a piece of cardboard

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...5&d=1278676679

and put it put under the solar roof.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...6&d=1278676679

This should reflect more heat and make it cooler inside. The panels can still slide closed. I'd like to glue alu foil directly to the panels, but getting to them isn't easy, plus I read that they are very fragile and outrageously expensive (US$400 per panel :eek:), so I'm having second thoughts. The foil-on-cardboard is a cheap short-term solution until I get the courage to carefully fiddle with them.

Laurentiu 07-09-2010 08:56 AM

Does it make a big difference inside when the car is parked in the sun ? Being a sunroof, I would think it probably already has some UV protection in them, I know some Webasto sunroofs claim 99% UV protection / 95% heat reflection, but that's Webasto, I don't know what Peugeot is using..
Webasto AUS info page

More info

euromodder 07-26-2010 04:09 PM

In winter you can use whatever sunlight is available to help warming up the car's interior.
Or you could block the sunroof from the inside to minimise heat-loss from your warmed-up interior to the outside world.

In summer:
It'll help a bit to block the sun from the inside.
It'll help a lot more if you block the sun from entering your car through the glass : put the sunblock on the outside of the car.
(Maybe using the roofrails ? If you don't plan on deleting them, that is.)

euromodder 07-26-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Piwoslaw (Post 182964)
I'd like to glue alu foil directly to the panels, but getting to them isn't easy, plus I read that they are very fragile and outrageously expensive (US$400 per panel :eek:), so I'm having second thoughts.

Put another layer between the sunroof and the alu foil.
A self-adhesive foil that's made to be removable, like the ones used to tint side-windows maybe ?

doviatt 07-26-2010 06:04 PM

One of those accordion fold sun shades would work well. They come in different sizes, even extra large ones for RV's. Although, I personally like your cardboard and foil solution the best.
The earlier point about doing the reflecting on the outside will keep the actual glass from heating up and then radiating on the inside.

j12piprius 03-13-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Piwoslaw (Post 182964)
I glued aluminum foil to a piece of cardboard and put it put under the solar roof.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...6&d=1278676679

Great idea.

I'd use radiant barrier, as the composition has a much higher reflectivity and lower emmissivity than aluminum foil. Plus I'd put the foil on the bottom of the cardboard, as well as the top. Radiant barrier double bubble foil, or foil tape might work with it too.

I wonder if the glass can be replaced with something opaque?

fjasper 03-14-2011 09:52 AM

Safari Roof!

From The Ho Residence

"With such a wide area being exposed to the sun and heat throughout the day, it was critical that the roof design effectively overcome the issue of solar gain. Interestingly, the design drew its inspiration from Land Rover with its safari roof.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WtOB7bp3qo...ed+cropped.jpg


"The safari roof was a device designed for the Series Type Land Rovers operating in the hot tropics. A simple sheet of aluminium mounted on top of the vehicle with metal feet, sandwiched a layer of air for insulation, which, when heated sufficiently, dissipated the air along with the heat while drawing in cool air through a repetitive cycle. More about this later."

Piwoslaw 03-15-2011 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by johnlvs2run (Post 225276)
I wonder if the glass can be replaced with something opaque?

The normal 'station wagon' version of P307 (mine is a 'sports wagon') doesn't have a solar roof, just a normal metal roof which is part of the chassis and can't be replaced.


That solar block spent the winter as my engine's insulation.


A perfect fit:)

j12piprius 08-04-2016 03:34 PM

I clipped radiant barrier foil across the gap with binder clips on each side, which has worked quite well for several years.

Recently I added highly reflective window tint to the underside of the glass.

Non reflective nano ceramic tint could also be used.

Xist 08-05-2016 12:43 AM

White Plasti-Dip? :D

serialk11r 08-07-2016 12:46 AM

How about metallic window film (for home windows)? I've done it myself once, it's not that hard and since you're not putting it over the windshield or side windows it doesn't have to be perfect.

For side windows and windshield, 3M Crystalline film is very expensive but almost like magic. My windshield has it and my side windows don't, and the direct sunlight coming through the windshield feels cooler than the highly refracted light coming through the sides at noon.

Metallic film on all windows would kill GPS signal, but on the sunroof I imagine it can't be much of a problem if most cars have metal roofs that don't cause problems.

j12piprius 08-07-2016 01:16 AM

There are 4 types of window film, with dyed being worst, metallic, carbon, and nano ceramic having the best performance. Ceramic keeps out more heat than metallic, doesn't block signals, and allows maximum day and night visibility. Ceramic tints vary in their ease of shrinking to fit curved surfaces.

Different Types of Window Tint Film

My understanding is that flat window films don't shrink well on curved surfaces, but might be okay for moon roofs.

Another option is Rustoleum white paint, which adheres quite well to automotive windows.

Xist 08-07-2016 11:32 AM

I believe the dyed tint is what they offer at the bargain tint places. When I had tinting put on my Forester they pointed at a window across the street. The guy says it was dyed tinting and was all messed up.


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