BORPower additive?
 

Hello!

Anyone of you have tested this additive?
Borpower Shop

I read from some local magazine that it uses nanoparticle technology and all fancy words, but that what caught my attention, was that it says it raises the power up to 10% more and FE up to 15% more, because it reduces the friction greatly.

Because this was mentioned on a good magazine, this caught my attention. Else i would just have ignored it.

So what are your thoughts :D

Moved to Unicorn Corral, pending group analysis/discussion...

It claims to reduce friction.

It can only raise power by 10% if engines now waste at least 10% of their power to friction at WOT. Which is not the case for almost any engine.
It can only raise fuel efficiency by 15% if engines without it waste at least 15% to friction under light load. Don't think so.

Their claims are extraordinary, but there is no scientific proof for that.
They do provide an angry looking cat and a lot of boll power though.

Wikipedia makes no mention of boron in lubrication appliances, but boron is used in some abrasive materials. Hmmm. Something rhymes.

I got an thought that it might already be in some oils and they are just advertising an old thing as new? But well, i will research that tomorrow. I'll go to sleep :)

A Boron compound is used in some oils as part of the detergent package.

Anything with "nano" in it is bound to be good! :thumbup:

Here's a Nanotemplate.

http://i43.tinypic.com/vsi2jq.jpg

Yay! Thanks, I like it; it's good.

Someone in India claimed to have mixed boric acid powder into engine oil, after grinding it down very fine, and got good results. I can't remember now where I read that.
Inspired by that, I got some boric acid and put it in my car's differential and wheel bearings. with no noticeable results. I never tried putting it in engine oil though.

nano particles of banana...

is this stuff an 'automotive' version/relation to those special, world-reknown, coffee beans that pass through monkeys digestion systems before becoming your morning brew?

That's Kopi Luwak.

-soD

And it is a civet cat, not a monkey that the beans pass through. Don't know what FE it gets from the beans.

Yea.. I'm pretty sure i wont test this additive :D

What Boric Acid does to metal wearing surfaces was a fortuitous find (IIRC) by Argonne National Labs, not some snake oil salesman.
(He prints money with impunity instead nowadays)

I'd post a link if I could... and if I thought it'd win out over ingrained opinions...

NB that Boric Oxide + Water = Boric Acid.
ie: What's sold as 'Boric Acid' isn't.
Its Boric Oxide till you add water.

Your engine will add the water to your oil for you if you have the patience.
That wont happen in a diff or gearbox.

Can you revisit this when you hit that thresold?

Sure :)

Do remind me should I forget plz freebeard.

[T]hresold? I disavow responsiblity until vBulletin's spell checker is fixed.

friction
 

Any friction in an automobile will derive from hydrodynamic shearing forces within liquids, which is solely a function of viscosity.
There really isn't any surface friction from parts actually in physical contact. They're all separated and 'ski' on top of a wedge of lubricant separating the surfaces.
Some oils are presently at 'zero' viscosity upon cold start. They add only a fraction of a percent to economy or power.
The claims are extremely dubious.
Buyer beware!

Should that happen the result is galling and friction welding. :eek: