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CigaR007 12-19-2011 05:45 PM

"Bumps" on OEM Subaru Impreza roof racks supposedly improve MPG
 
Stumbled upon this video of the 2012 Subaru Impreza. At the 30 seconds mark, the guy talks about the roof rack and its design. The added "tab" at the end of the roofrails added 1 MPG to the highway fuel economy as per their aerodynamic testing. Apparently it smooths the airflow. I find that aerodynamic tweak amazing given its small size and its correlating impact on fuel economy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpJxL8ZDsZw

aerohead 12-19-2011 06:12 PM

VG
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigaR007 (Post 275385)
Stumbled upon this video of the 2012 Subaru Impreza. At the 30 seconds mark, the guy talks about the roof rack and its design. The added "tab" at the end of the roofrails added 1 MPG to the highway fuel economy as per their aerodynamic testing. Apparently it smooths the airflow. I find that aerodynamic tweak amazing given its small size and its correlating impact on fuel economy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpJxL8ZDsZw

The tail end of the rack ends just where attached longitudinal vortices might form off the roof.
The tail of the rack sections are just like a Mitsubishi Lancer roofline (very steep!) and the 'bump' should act just like a vortex generator to help the flow follow that steep incline.
Also,EPA Mobile Sources certification testing includes faster speeds ( up to 70 or 75 mph) than in past decades,so drag is more important than ever before and 'small' differences would matter.

instarx 12-19-2011 07:02 PM

1 mpg? I find that hard to believe.

BamZipPow 12-19-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by instarx (Post 275398)
1 mpg? I find that hard to believe.

Keep in mind that engineers probably gave the marketing people the numbers and the marketing people rounded up. So it might have been some fractional gain... ;)

MetroMPG 12-22-2011 10:13 AM

I'm skeptical about their claim too. Needs some fact checking!

kach22i 12-22-2011 10:56 AM

I agree that it might be a vortex generator of some kind which alters the flow over the car, or creates it's own small vortex which affects the larger one which would normally form.

I did some studies on pick-up truck roof cabs which intended to do something similar. However I am far away from doing something about it (spring project), and even farther away from proving how or why it may work.

Anything which lowers the air pressure at a critical point (aft) will result in sucking the air above it (at higher pressure) down. In the end, it will appear as though the overall flow is better.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...roofrack-1.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ortex-ts2b.jpg

Quasimoto 12-22-2011 01:15 PM

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kach22i 12-22-2011 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasimoto (Post 275850)
Anyone know of any bridges for sale in Brooklyn?

Remember, there is typically a little truth in every lie.

The truth might be that a conventional roof rack costs 1-mpg more than this one.

This rack combined with the aerial acting as yet another vortex generator may indeed net a gain of .66666 mpg, rounded up to 1-mpg.

What do the Mitsubishi vortex generators claim to increase mpg by (or is it just a downforce clam)?
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/cor...004/16E_03.pdf

And old Ecomodder thread:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...fins-3889.html

Picture of similar product:
APR Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution | Evo | 10 | Vortex Generator
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/i...xGenerator.jpg

CigaR007 12-22-2011 03:38 PM

What are the chances of Subaru releasing the test results in order to prove the 1 MPG-benefit claim ?

kach22i 12-22-2011 04:00 PM

This is what they used to do, looks pretty good according to what I know of the topic. I'm just thinking maybe they are not all BS.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/DSCF4928.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/DSCF4923.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/DSCF4922.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/DSCF4926.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/DSCF4920.jpg

Just maybe vortex control is more important than drawing the air downward.


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