car wax
Guys, can you advise what is the car wax you are using? is there an eco-friendly wax?
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I don't use any wax! I h-a-t-e wax!!! :cool:
I use a Cali Car Duster, doused with Pledge Clean & Shine, twice a day - every day... California Car Duster Company - The Original California Car Duster Pledge ® Clean & Shine How does my mileage look?!?!? Here's my ride - quick snappy, no prep - looks like this 24/7/365... http://www.lenon.com/images/BDC_ECOM...X_SI_FRONT.jpg |
Car washing/polishing and eco-friendly might be contrary purposes.
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you should be ashamed your condenser core is showing Just funnin, looks good, Schultz |
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Yeah, it's not so much an ECO car as a babe magnet, but 'dusting' works better than wax, and it smells better too! Don't know if you ever smelled Pledge Clean & Shine, but chicks dig it... go figure... ;) |
See what you have to do is attract females to carpool with so that your mpg/occupant doubles.
I have been using Meguires Paint Cleaner (on random orbital) then whatever polishes/ compounds/ wet sanding I need on orbital (grinder style) then the blue wax in a clear bottle that walmart sells with a German sounding name. Works well IMHO, some disagree . . . . I'm looking for a chronicle of a guy who detailed the crap out of a MKIV jetta last year. It is unbelievable. |
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Nice thought though... ;) I let them wear my shirt every once in a while - does that count? |
You use Pledge on your car paint?! It's car paint not a kitchen table.
I frequent a car detailing forum and they'd cry into wash buckets hearing that. Thread on eco washing/cleaning Proper Washing Technique You could easily adjust the washing technique to make it use less water |
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Don't get me wrong! Maybe the word 'doused' confused you. I put Pledge Clean & Shine on my duster, NOT my ride!!! Cali car dusters are impregnated with wax, but it doesn't last very long - especially using it as much as I do. Plus, if your car is hot (I live in Arizona) the wax causes streaking, and so forth, and so on. Sooo... What I do is spray the DUSTER liberally from time-to-time to replace the wax (wax doesn't work all that great). Then, I store the duster in my (hot) trunk, where it soaks into the cotton (kinda like the way a K&N air filter works). Dusters come with a zippered vinyl sleeve so the wax/polish doesn't stain your carpet. Between 'dusting' my car twice a day, and storing the duster in my trunk, my whole ride smells like Clean & Shine - which, of course, adds a physiological component (your nose). Not only does my ride *look* clean & shiny - it *smells* clean & shiny too! LoL! OMG!!! I would NEVER spray Pledge on auto paint, e.g. clear coat - although it DOES work great on plastic body parts, like motorcycle/ATC fenders. You can make a 'dirt bike' look like it just came off the showroom floor using Pledge - but that's a different discussion... ;) |
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I only "wash" my ride about 2-3 times a year! Hondas are given to 'body rot'. Spraying Honda CiViCs with a garden hose only exacerbates the problem! Pledge is MUCH better... :cool: |
I use Mother's wax. Gives a great shine and is slick as a baby's bottom.
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I use synthetic polish... It lasts longer, goes on easy and keeps the bird poop from ruining the paint. It comes off there like its been covered in teflon.
I don't know if its eco friendly, but I use Simoniz waxes and polishes. |
I just remembered it while watching concourse coverage on HD net ; Zymol!
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Wax?
I washed my car last week for the upcoming gathering. (first time I ever washed this car) Does that count? S. |
well... as a professional detailer, i should probably chime in on this. I use Stevens Car Care, Automagic, and PDP supplies. You may not be able to get them publicly though.
I use 1 of 3 different compounds with 2 different buffing pads on a variable speed buffer[ body grinder]. Each compound has a specific purpose as well as the 2 different pads. then a quick color restore polish, with a 21lbs random orbital. use it to put it on and take it off. Then a sealant wax. My truck is swirl free, the paint has a deep shine/reflection. I do offroad it so there are some deeper scratches i haven't had a chance to fix, but i figure it'll happen again. BTW Polish restores gloss, and you want a non silicone based polish, and wax is a "sealer" that helps keep the shine and makes the paint more resistant to fading, light scratches and environmental paint defects[acid rain, industrial fallout from pollution, "rail dust" or brake dust and bird droppings/insects] BDC I read the pledge website. I don't see a single thing that can be "healthy" for your cars paint. Silver is easy to keep clean, and shiny. Doesn't mean that product is doing it right though. You could use a silicone based tire shine and get the same results. is it good for the paint/clearcoat, no. If you used a quality product once every 3-6 months you wouldn't have to wipe it down twice a day. YAY!! A topic i am needed for |
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I use a locking car cover to keep the thieves at bay, and protect it from the sun, bird droppings, vandals, et cetera! The car cover, so called, also covers my car... with dust! ;) |
I still don't see how pledge is good for car paint. just my 2 cents.
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since a wax is dry lubricant, would this improve aero dynamics?
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[QUOTE=gasti_ako;60982]since a wax is dry lubricant, would this improve aero dynamics?[/QUOTE
I've read discussion on this on other forums, some say yes and some say no. I always try to wax my car right before a road trip and it seems to help my FE. It seems that anything that makes the surface slicker will help aero dynamics by letting air pass over the surface easier. |
but the "slickness" to the paint is so microscopic. the small voids that the polish/wax fills can only be seen under a microscope.
Honda did release an article last month about how if "...Large vehicle owners wash and wax and keep their vehicles clean they can see an increase of 10%mpg hwy" Of course it said results may vary. Maybe they should just come out with "aero" packages like Dodge did w/the Daytona Superbird. |
When laminar-flow sections are tested in wind tunnels, they are very smooth but not necessarily shiny. You can look up the "standard roughness" used to trip the flow into turbulence - I think it is .003" Probably the best thing about waxing is that it removes bugs and slows the re-accumulation.
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Honda did release an article last month about how if "...Large vehicle owners wash and wax and keep their vehicles clean they can see an increase of 10%mpg hwy" Of course it said results may vary.
Anybody have this article? I'd love to read it. |
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I bought my first Honda CiViC brand new, off the showroom floor. The dealer offered a *free* lifetime guarantee on the factory paint job, if you let them reapply the Poly-Razzmatazz Coating every 6 months (which they reapplied for *free* BTW). Dude, that stuff was sooo slick, I couldn't keep the car cover from blowing off my ride for weeks afterwards! And, Rain-X is miraculous too! Not only does it repel raindrops, but snow bounces off your windshield when you're driving - looks like HyperDrive in Star Wars! :thumbup: http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/images/HyperDrive.gif |
Guys, there was a thread here not long ago where an aeronautical engineer weighed in. Basically, there are two forms of drag (I forget the terminology) and the drag associated with smooth, slippery surfaces doesn't come into play until you are travelling hundreds of miles per hour (aircraft speeds).
I love to wax my car to prevent the paint from drying out and or losing its color (and I love Rain-X, too ... been using it since 1985) but there is no efficiency issue with the condition of the surfaces of our cars (which is why Basjoos' FrankenCivic works so well despite it's rough fit and finish. |
Here is one thread that talks about drag caused by the condition of the surface ... but it's not the one I was thinking of. :(
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...face-2527.html |
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If a shiny, clean car DOES get better FE, it would only be the case at highway speeds! A little dust on the surface would not have any measurable effect on the MPG, but if there are sizable clumps of dirt on your car that significantly alters the air flow along its surface, then it WOULD reduce your gas mileage. Wax, et al, and Rain-X can only improve matters... ;) |
True BDC, it can't hurt.
But the poster in the thread from several weeks ago was pretty clear that even most race cars would not benefit from a waxed surface versus one that was rough and pitted. I asked him if he could tell me the speed at which drag from the condition of the exposed surfaces would come into play and he said it wasn't quite that simple ... actually depended on a number of factors. I came away thinking of speeds in excess of 200mph. I looked for the thread for about 20 minutes ... but I just can't think of his name nor any key terms used in the thread. :( |
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