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MadisonMPG 09-12-2009 08:56 PM

Civic VX...
 
Someone please buy it, don't let it get neutered with an engine swap.

92 civic hatchback VX

Christ 09-12-2009 11:48 PM

Lol... he needs the money to pay off the credit card... or else he'd keep it.

In what world do you sell the car that saves you money so you have to money to pay the card that takes your money? How is that logical?

I'd imagine his "other car" is something that doesn't hardly get 20MPG... just assuming based on what I've seen in life, though. Maybe I'm wrong, and he's got one of those 100MPG carbs on his lifted 6x6 Grumman Diesel rig...

MadisonMPG 09-13-2009 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Christ (Post 127467)
Lol... he needs the money to pay off the credit card... or else he'd keep it.

In what world do you sell the car that saves you money so you have to money to pay the card that takes your money? How is that logical?

I was going to email him and ask the exact same question.

I wish I had 2k.

Christ 09-13-2009 12:03 AM

Me too. Unfortunately, for the 2k, I could probably get a motorcycle and keep driving my van when I need more than one seat.

MadisonMPG 09-13-2009 12:07 AM

I want a motorcycle, but I live at home and the parents won't let me. (1 more year)

I wonder how one would go about block heating a 2 stroke... (thinking out loud)

Christ 09-13-2009 12:09 AM

Heating pad wrapped around the cylinder sleeve's heat sinks.

Unless it's a water cooled 2stroke, in which case, you'd just install it in the water's flow path.

I could have bought a bike when I lived w/ my Father... I never understood how a parent could really affect that choice, or think they could anyway... I kinda look at it like they just don't trust you (generalized) to operate responsibly when they say you can't have one.

MadisonMPG 09-13-2009 12:14 AM

My parents reason is a stupid one. My cousin (like 3rd or 4th) gave his girlfriend a ride and they were both drunk and she didn't have a helmet. Ended up killing her and he was fine. My aunt now calls them Murdercycles. My reply is always, "The motorcycle has never killed anyone..."

Christ 09-13-2009 12:17 AM

So what does that story have to do with you or your apparent lack of coordination or intelligence necessary to ride safely and responsibly?

(That was NOT an insult, rather the question I'd be asking when that story came up in my presence.)

SVOboy 09-13-2009 12:34 AM

Don't forget, most non-drug-related motorcycle fatalities are not the fault of the rider as much as they are the fault of someone running them over/off the road, so being smart and careful won't solve every issue.

That fact is what has kept me off a motorcycle these last few years :/

Frank Lee 09-13-2009 12:49 AM

It's true, lotsa stuff happens on the road and it ain't all yer fault or even something you can avoid every time.

It's also true that the same circumstance that causes major trauma on a bike can be a non-event in a cage.

This from someone who had to spend 3 months in a recliner after a cycle crash. :mad:

dcb 09-13-2009 05:09 AM

Anyone ever consider how unsafe cars are to other people/living things?

Seriously, the risks to life and limb (not just your own) go up rather steeply just by getting in a vehicle.

Who do you think is killing all those pedestrians and bicyclists? People who feel safe in their cages for the most part.

Motorcycles are a bit of an exception, as the stats include a population with a high percentage of "risk takers" and more affordable high performance machines. But still, the predominating risk for motorcycles is stupid cagers.

Some analysis: http://www.motorcycle-accidents.com/pages/stats.html

dcb 09-13-2009 10:16 AM

Maybe you can see that whenever safety and motorcycles is brought up, I have to question if it is a similiar line of thinking to buying larger and larger vehicles in the name of "safety".

MadisonMPG 09-13-2009 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Christ (Post 127478)
So what does that story have to do with you or your apparent lack of coordination or intelligence necessary to ride safely and responsibly?

(That was NOT an insult, rather the question I'd be asking when that story came up in my presence.)

My parents are afraid of motorcycles, because of that wreck. And the brain ****ing my aunt has given them about them. She tells of all these horror stories of immature people wrecking on motorcycles, it's just BS to keep me from buying one.

Christ 09-13-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MadisonMPG (Post 127538)
My parents are afraid of motorcycles, because of that wreck. And the brain ****ing my aunt has given them about them. She tells of all these horror stories of immature people wrecking on motorcycles, it's just BS to keep me from buying one.

Well, of course it is.

So when you're of legal age to sign, I say go for it.

If your parents' fears and worries were based on actual thought, I'd whole heartedly agree with them, but when you base rules on fear of something you refuse to understand, or at least analyze correctly, you only venture to hamper what would otherwise be better off. (most times, not always.)

Christ 09-13-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MadisonMPG (Post 127538)
My parents are afraid of motorcycles, because of that wreck. And the brain ****ing my aunt has given them about them. She tells of all these horror stories of immature people wrecking on motorcycles, it's just BS to keep me from buying one.

Have you considered maybe showing them factual reports of the number of deaths per million motorcycles insured versus the number of deaths in 4+ wheeled conveyance among 16-21 YO males?

Or even taking the psychological route that your aunt has taken, and mind****ing them with something along the lines of "It's nice to know you don't trust me to not get drunk like a ****wad and ride around and kill people."

It's not the prettiest flowery solution to the problem, but it just might work. When all else fails, psychology rocks. :thumbup:

MadisonMPG 09-13-2009 12:33 PM

haha Christ i've been on a crusade to get a motorcycle for transportation since I was 14, nothing is working. Motorcycles per mile are one of the deadliest (if not the) modes of transportation out there. I'm not arguing for them, it's just really dangerous.

Frank Lee 09-13-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dcb (Post 127523)
Maybe you can see that whenever safety and motorcycles is brought up, I have to question if it is a similiar line of thinking to buying larger and larger vehicles in the name of "safety".

It's not the size so much as it is the stupid things want to fall down given the chance.


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