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EcoCivic 07-30-2017 05:17 PM

Clean vs Dirty car aero
 
I have heard that a dirty car gets better mileage than a clean car because the dirt creates a rough surface, kind of like a golf ball. But Mythbusters tested that and found thhat a dirty car reduces mileage, but then again they sprayed a half inch thick mud coating on it, which is not at all indicative of a "normal" dirty car, unless you go offroading lol. What do you think, and how big could the difference actually be? Thanks

Stubby79 07-30-2017 05:57 PM

You'll get a lot of suppositions with a question like that...but hopefully someone comes along with some hard evidence one way or the other.

Jez77 07-30-2017 06:15 PM

I'd guess any aero gains are offset by losses caused by extra weight.

slowmover 07-30-2017 07:40 PM

Consider safety instead. Bright & shiny seen better by others.

Glass so clean in & out that new cars look bad.

Vision by others::Vision by driver.

EcoCivic 07-30-2017 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jez77 (Post 546238)
I'd guess any aero gains are offset by losses caused by extra weight.

I don't think that the dirt weighs that much lol. But then again the difference in aerodynamics would not be much either.

me and my metro 07-30-2017 10:34 PM

I don't know, I removed a couple hundred pounds of dirt from my company's backhoe yesterday just so I could service it. LOL

Jez77 07-30-2017 11:52 PM

A few years ago one of the world rally championship cars had the dirt they cleaned off it after 1 dirt stage weighed. It came in at 23ish kg if I remember right.

gumby79 07-31-2017 02:33 AM

Depending on the part of the world/ country you are in ,not washing the road grime off is a shure way to get rust started and that will cut your mileage and safety.

freebeard 07-31-2017 12:19 PM

Authoritative enough?

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerohead
surface friction drag
Skin friction drag on a car is associated with air viscosity and local pressure.The car could be made of glass and have no lower drag than if painted with flat,camo paint.The only way you can reduce this friction drag is to not drive the car.

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aerohead 08-05-2017 01:35 PM

clean vs dirty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EcoCivic (Post 546228)
I have heard that a dirty car gets better mileage than a clean car because the dirt creates a rough surface, kind of like a golf ball. But Mythbusters tested that and found thhat a dirty car reduces mileage, but then again they sprayed a half inch thick mud coating on it, which is not at all indicative of a "normal" dirty car, unless you go offroading lol. What do you think, and how big could the difference actually be? Thanks

Aeronautical engineer and creator of the Litestar/Pulse,100-mpg vehicle of the early 1980s claimed Cd 0.18 'clean' ,and Cd 0.20 'dirty'.
It suggests that the vehicle had a laminar body.
Sighard Hoerner,who was with Messerschmitt in WW-II,claimed that the rough,olive drag,flat-primer-like paint on their fighter aircraft made no difference to performance.
Rough,clay,full-scale wind tunnel models appear to generate the same Cd as a production,OEM,lustrous paint-finished model of the same car.


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