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Old 11-12-2018, 09:12 AM   #3661 (permalink)
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The numbers that state that cows belch vastly more than they pass gas?

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Contrary to common belief, it’s cow belching due to enteric fermentation. (“Enteric fermentation” is the digestive process of converting sugars into simple molecules for absorption into the bloodstream, which produces methane as a by-product.) However, a small percentage of methane is also produced in the cow’s large intestine and then expelled. Settling ponds and lagoons for processing manure also produce copious amounts of this greenhouse gas.
https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/

Don't blame me if you want specifics, take it up with NASA!

There was a segment on NPR about the correlation between a strong economy and increasing greenhouse gases and how terrible the last ten years of economic recovery has been for the environment.

Here is hoping for a greater depression?

My browsing history shows cat videos as far back as I can see, but YouTube suggested some TED talks about thorium. Someone commented that India already has thorium reactors. I found this: https://neutronbytes.com/2018/04/06/...by-two-thirds/

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:29 AM   #3662 (permalink)
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You can start eat beef made from eatable insects, since they are even more reach in protein adn the energy and water used to produce it's way lower (per kg of final eatable product) tah for cows or even chicken.

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Old 11-12-2018, 10:04 AM   #3663 (permalink)
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:33 PM   #3664 (permalink)
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The numbers that state that cows belch vastly more than they pass gas?

https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/

Don't blame me if you want specifics, take it up with NASA!

There was a segment on NPR about the correlation between a strong economy and increasing greenhouse gases and how terrible the last ten years of economic recovery has been for the environment.

Here is hoping for a greater depression?

My browsing history shows cat videos as far back as I can see, but YouTube suggested some TED talks about thorium. Someone commented that India already has thorium reactors. I found this: https://neutronbytes.com/2018/04/06/...by-two-thirds/
They are working on Thorium fueled reactors. Most of the work is on using the Thorium Cycle in current nuclear power stations as this is feasible now. A nuclear power plant tailored to use Thorium is in the pipeline. India is uniquely positioned as, though poor in uranium reserves, it has a large chunk of proven thorium reserves. This is paralleled by China. To keep their economic growths, both societies must turn to nuclear power or increase their use of coal. However, both countries have large land masses that can site renewable farms as well as placement of diffuse arrays. This results in a reduction of power plant needs, though they cannot be avoided altogether.
 
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:38 PM   #3665 (permalink)
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Direct Air Capture of 1/3 of the carbon uses up 1/4 of the energy that made the CO2.
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"On this basis, the paper says that capturing 12 billion tonnes of CO2 equivalent (GtCO2e) per year (around a third of annual global emissions) would require 156 exajoules (EJ) of energy. This is more than a quarter of total annual global energy demand for all uses, of around 550EJ."
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Locust is a protein source in many societies.

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You can start eat beef made from eatable insects, since they are even more reach in protein adn the energy and water used to produce it's way lower (per kg of final eatable product) tah for cows or even chicken.

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It is not about slaughter blood flowing into rivers (and if it were, I don't think that poses much of an environmental threat).
It is about cows farting greenhouse gasses. I thought that was a joke until I learned the numbers.
Except that it is the food we feed the cows that is the problem. Cattle have existed for Millions of years - and they don't increase greenhouse gas levels.

We are causing it by raising our crops with artificial fertilizer made with natural gas.
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Except that it is the food we feed the cows that is the problem. Cattle have existed for Millions of years - and they don't increase greenhouse gas levels.

We are causing it by raising our crops with artificial fertilizer made with natural gas.
Even if they just eat grass there's a problem. Some foods help, but there's no perfect solution - except for us consuming less meat.
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Old 11-12-2018, 01:00 PM   #3669 (permalink)
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The believers need to all get on the same page. It makes the story more believable.
When you espouse belief in what we know to be lies, and conspiracy theory - you are not credible.

You agree with Christopher Monckton on climate change - do you also believe he has a cure for the common cold and AIDS, as he has claimed? He is a crank, and you agree with him.

He claims he was a science advisor to Margaret Thatcher - except she understood that humans are causing climate change, and she helped start the IPCC.
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Even if they just eat grass there's a problem. Some foods help, but there's no perfect solution - except for us consuming less meat.
No - when cows eat grass, and then move on to other fields - they are SINKING carbon into the soil, in a big way.




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