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Old 02-04-2019, 03:04 PM   #4811 (permalink)
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Something being technically feasible is way different than it being economically feasible. I didn't see anything in there to explain how storage would work.

If going renewable is better in every way, then we'd already be doing it. The website is ignorant at best, and deceptive at worst.
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Dumb website based on nothing.
The website itself is pretty meh, but the link at the bottom points to an index page that points to lots of relevant papers.
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Might as well just say we can wish for nuclear fusion. Even that's more likely than what they propose by 2050, which is an arbitrary date, with arbitrary amounts of various "renewable" solutions.

I propose 10,000% solar electricity! What are we waiting for!!!
Renewables alone won't cut it in the foreseeable future, barring breakthrough developments. So yes. 10% solar is a nice target.
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:27 PM   #4814 (permalink)
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Health improvements alone from dropping coal is a huge cost savings.
Not to mention fewer coal miners being accused of unconsious bias and racism.

The downside is fewer coal miner songs. My favorite is probably Beat On The Mountain.



....but the mountain don't say a thing.
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I have no doubt getting rid of coal plants will make people healthier.
Just replace coal with nuclear.

I read a lot of books and science journals and we were supposed to have fission power by the year 2000 or 2020 at the latest.
Well it's 2019 and commercial fission power still looks like it's 20 or 30 years away.
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Commercial fission power looks like it did in the 50s, which is part of the problem. Fusion power; can't imagine that happening anytime soon.
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Well it's 2019 and commercial fission power still looks like it's 20 or 30 years away.
I think there is a little confission.
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I have no doubt getting rid of coal plants will make people healthier.
Just replace coal with nuclear.
Nuclear costs even more than coal. Who's going to pay for it?

Wind based on land in the least expensive way to generate electricity, and it is growing faster and faster.

Storage is cheap - even if you use lithium. It pays for itself in a short period of time. Even with conventional sources, we need storage.
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I hope batteries drop in price and grow in energy density. But at present time lithium it's expensive, very expensive...

Maybe in countries with prime weather predictions, they could manage industry activity to work more or more intnese in days of strong winds.

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Nuclear costs even more than coal. Who's going to pay for it?

Wind based on land in the least expensive way to generate electricity, and it is growing faster and faster.

Storage is cheap - even if you use lithium. It pays for itself in a short period of time. Even with conventional sources, we need storage.
Nuclear doesn't have to cost more, and it didn't in the past. We didn't get less capable at engineering/constructing such power plants, we got more NIMBY.

Wind may be the least expensive way to generate random electricity, but we don't need random electricity, we need precise and varying amounts.

Storage is not cheap, otherwise it would have already been implemented.

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