The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP
 

Why I'm calling it?
Well this happened over 3 months ago and no one freaked out about it, not even a peep.
Even I think it's pretty significant.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ce-melt-again/
It happened last year they kind of freaked out about it, then it repeated this year and crickets. The crickets are deafening and I can't take it any more.
I checked some of the other climate change posts on different forms and most of them haven't been updated in months, since before the plandemic.

I said it would be finished by 2022 and it seems like they have been riding a dead horse for about the last 3 or 4 years.

Input fatigue.

Everyone is running about in circles shouting "We're gonna die" about today's viral video. People really can't multitask

I was just wondering yesterday how far one would have to move to offset a given predicted rise in temperature.

Based on the graph below, it seems every 1 degree latitude results in 0.5 degree C (about 1 degree F) change in temperature.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...PPUUlJyXDXbpVQ

1 degree latitude is about 69 miles.

If temperatures were expected to rise 2.5 degrees C in 100 years, a person would need to move 5 degrees latitude, or 345 miles to offset it (about 3.5 miles per year). I guess we'll see everyone in Sacramento moving to Medford in the next 100 years.

Supposed to be 100 degrees the next couple days here in what has otherwise been a pretty mild summer.

"The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP"

Do you have a moment to talk about the GrEen NeW DeAl?

They tried cap and tax when they had the unvetoable super majority and it still failed.
The new green deal is all the tax, none of the cap and more free shtuff.
The new green deal was dead on arrival in the senate. Most of the senate democrats wouldn't even touch it.
2 reasons you know they gave up on the new green deal as a standalone bill.
1 If they knew it could pass on its own then why did they try to roll the new green deal in with the china virus stimulus package.
2 AOC only gets 1 minute at the convention.
3 climate change worrying hasn't polled above single digits for about 8 years.

I'm sure it will briefly return in zombie form for a little while when the virus burns it self out and fake race riots run out of money.

It was more about 'do you have a moment to talk about...', as I hear a cult frame of mind.

Via Suspicious 0bservers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4J2dZZ6slA
Global Warming, Climate Change, Green New Deal.... It's all gradualism. Catastophism will eat their lunch.

If the weather warfare floods and locusts don't get us first.

I'd missed yesterday's S0, there's this:
news.osu.edu: Warming Greenland ice sheet passes point of no return
They go on to talk about rising sea levels. But if it shuts down the Gulf Stream, then ==>Snowball!

Oh that's nothing the lack of magnetic field on earth will get us first. I think it was a week ago the Coronal hole stream knocked out Australian communication satellites, that's not even a solar storm. So now we have mundane space weather damaging stuff.

Reverse lightning strike on the Oriental Pearl tower in Shanghai?

Suspicious 0bserver's position is that this is the penultimate Solar Minimum. The next one will blow a shell of material off the Sun in a micro-nova in the mid-2030s.

Future archeologists will interpret it as meteors. Like we do with 0bserver's Trench.

Depends on who you talk to.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...ght-180972843/

I didn't say earth's magnetic field was going to flip.
But since 1860 the earth has lost 20% of the field strength, most of that 20% since 2000.
Thr north and south poles have moved more in our lifetimes than they did previously going back to the1600s.
This may be a magnetic excursion, where the poles move so far then go back. The earth's magnetic field strength is pretty much guaranteed to drop at least 50% and will likely fall below 20%.
For all we know the only thing that might be able to flip the poles is when a super solar storm hits during a magnetic excursion and pushes the poles a full 180 degrees. The magnetic excursion may be a regular event happening every 10 to 20 thousand years.

Suspicious 0bservers reports that the NASA video on the South Atlantic Anomaly is still AWOL after three days. This in a story about lightning bolts that strike upward from the ground being 10x as common now.

I was under the impression that since the sky was negatively charged, lightning went from earth to sky, it was just the arcs ionization trail that went from cloud down the current path.

The step leader is always downward.
According to S0, positive strikes are increasing.

In the 1990s I described seeing sprites and upwards lightning and was told I was lied or was seeing things.
I guess other people saw these phenomena were told the same thing and eventually someone kept going on about it until published scientific people were like "I'll put an end to this once and for all,,,, ummmm wait a minute".

That's the way science works. :)

Claims must be falsifiable.

Ridiculous thread. Climate science started in the early 1800's.

Denying facts doesn't change them.

Welcome to the new thread. It's been a while since the Consensus thread failed.

Denying counterfactuals doesn't negate them.

Not denying anything. Climate science is important. The only thing more important is to do it correctly.

But it's hard to keep up. Did you see the story on S0 about the turbulence in the electromagnetic wake of Earth in the Solar wind couples energy [more than predicted] to the planet? https://www.nasa.gov/feature/aurora-...hemis-mission/

It's the new constellation of THEMIS satellites.

In other news— super sun screen with inexpensive precursors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I50EEKzrOd4

I made a casual observation here tonight, all the record highs in NM have occurred during or around the time of solar maximum after the longest solar minimums. Probably just coincidence, the thing that provides almost all of the earth's energy can't possibly effect the weather...That's ludicrous.

I'm thinking the public and the media have been busy with a couple of other topics this year.

EDIT: That article was published about a week after George Floyd was killed by police.

Global warming was supposed to be the largest threat to humanity ever and it was just tossed aside like last week's garbage in the face of this election years circus antics.
I see the weather channel talking about all the old records high temps from 1929-1931.
So I looked up solar cycle 16. It seems that long solar minimus, with no sun spots for a long time make for record heat.
The solar minimum going into cycle 16 lasted 528 spotless days, the maximum was April 1928. The records came pouring in over the next 3 years on and around the second peak.

To keep trying the same thing over and over is, by definition, insane.

They've still got Alien Invasion.

Remember how it was nice and cool while everybody was inside?

I am still waiting for it to get hot enough for coronavirus to go away like a miracle. Phoenix has had 42 days 110° or higher.

The previous record was 33 and there is no relief in sight.

What could kill you today tends to trump what will likely kill someone else in a poor country 20 years from now.

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It's what it recites as it washes it's hands.

They tried that one.
Search "aliens and climate change".
Climate change killed other civilizations, aliens don't want us to join their united federation of planets or galactic empire or covenant because we are trashing our planet.
If they needed a violent race that breeds fast and can use technology we would totally be in the covenant.

If you're trying to sell something you're doing a really bad job.

RIP
 

We were asked not to discuss climate change. I'll wait until Darin or the other higher-ups green-light the topic.
Otherwise, the pandemic, black lives matter, and reopening the economy seem to have dominated all media reporting.

Wasn't it political bickering? But sure, DM the mods and have them post in the thread. Ground rules or whatever.
Well there's your problem — listening to the corporate media. They're monomaniacal.

Listen to them and you wind up befuddled like John Gilkerson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhHH7I8kuAg

I'm not selling anything. Just pointing out that the threat of our changing climate is abstract for many people in a way that COVID 19 and riots on the streets of your own city are not. The later will get more attention than the former.

And Space Weather is more abstract yet.

Don't speak ill of the dead.
We should celebrate the accomplishments of the global warming movement that later transitioned into the climate change movement.
Let's see they closed a bunch of nuclear power stations, tried to ban facking which gave us natural gas which was used to replace coal, they closed coal plants that were supposed to be the safer alternative to nuclear, the same people promoting global warming then blocked over all water wind projects on the east coast for a decade, they got diesel vehicles off the road and replaced them with more CO2 per mile emitting gasoline cars, they promote hydrogen which uses natural gas, emits CO2 and is horribly inefficient.
They suppressed research into space effects on weather.
They pushed electric vehicle technology forward, that was about all they really accomplished.
This 6 month break in climate change mass hysteria has given people a chance to do actual science again that not attached to a political agenda.
I'm sure the climate change movement will come back some what next summer and die it's final death that year.

I like how the biggest threat to man kind ever was just tossed aside for what amounts to jerry springer episodes involving larceny and use of explosives to commit felonies.

Thor's Hammer

https://youtu.be/7wpxSKrd77Y?t=37

Fixed! :)

2+2 would equal 5 in a world with out 4. Then 4 would be 5 and so on.

I'll grant you the 'would' but wouldn't that raise holy havoc with the cosmological constants?*
[in the voice of the young Woody Allen in Annie Hall] "The Red Shift is quantized!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjHa_RoeAYw

*Now that I think about it that would be moving from base 5 to base 4, expressed in base 10. That would be possible in our Universe.

Now that the whole state of California is on fire because they decided to bet on turning fighting forest fires into a business model instead of practicing forestry they are predictably blaming climate change.
Climate change hasn't been putting out nearly all forest fires for the last 50 years.