Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-27-2008, 02:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
bhazard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, OH
Posts: 500

2012 Golf TDI - '12 Volkswagen Golf TDI
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 45.51 mpg (US)
Thanks: 6
Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts
Does this reduce drag?

Couple of befores...





And now...




Tools used:




I know I still gotta get that drivers door. Needs some grittier stuff than the rubbing compound. Maybe some wet sanding. Also wanna repaint the wheels black. Maybe Ill paint the drumz and caliperz yellow and be extra cool? No.

__________________
'05 Outback XT, 19 mpg

BP-turbo 93 Festiva (long gone)
1/4 mile - 12.50@111.5
Best MPG - 36.8
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 07-27-2008, 03:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
Mr. Blue Tape
 
azraelswrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 345

AzxA - '06 Scion xA
90 day: 42.72 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
As long as it reduces things that create turbulence while moving through air, that will reduce drag. How much drag reduction... may be too small to observe. Banging out some of those dents wouldn't hurt either.
__________________


My 5 pillars of fuel efficiency:
  • driving style
  • aerodynamics
  • tires
  • weight reduction
  • engine maintenance
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2008, 03:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
bhazard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, OH
Posts: 500

2012 Golf TDI - '12 Volkswagen Golf TDI
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 45.51 mpg (US)
Thanks: 6
Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts
Yeah I wanna get the big dents out. Unfortunately the roof and hood have tons of hail damage from a storm we had a couple years ago. I wonder if all the dings act like a golfball and help aero? haha
__________________
'05 Outback XT, 19 mpg

BP-turbo 93 Festiva (long gone)
1/4 mile - 12.50@111.5
Best MPG - 36.8
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2008, 04:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
Mr. Blue Tape
 
azraelswrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 345

AzxA - '06 Scion xA
90 day: 42.72 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Actually... I've heard some theorize it (dents) might but I don't know if they'll create the right types of turbulence reordering/vortex generation you want to clean up the air around you.

Might see bigger gains in FE with more air pressure in the tires, cleaning/smoothing out the front of the car, adding some grille blocks to limit the amount of air that gets caught up in the engine, and maximizing weight reduction. Smooth hubcaps might help too or a rear wheel skirt but one step at a time.
__________________


My 5 pillars of fuel efficiency:
  • driving style
  • aerodynamics
  • tires
  • weight reduction
  • engine maintenance
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2008, 05:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
bhazard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, OH
Posts: 500

2012 Golf TDI - '12 Volkswagen Golf TDI
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 45.51 mpg (US)
Thanks: 6
Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts
Yeah I already run 50 psi in the fronts (44psi tires) and 40 or 44 in the rears (35psi tires).

Itd be nice to find some choroplast to paint red and block the grill with. Id also like to make an air dam for the front. I gained some ground clearance with the bigger tires so I need to make up for that.
__________________
'05 Outback XT, 19 mpg

BP-turbo 93 Festiva (long gone)
1/4 mile - 12.50@111.5
Best MPG - 36.8
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2008, 12:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brunswick, Ohio
Posts: 121

Danger Ranger - '01 Ford Ranger Edge 4x4
90 day: 14.52 mpg (US)

Moms car - '05 Ford Freestyle Limited
90 day: 21.92 mpg (US)

Mistress - '10 Harley-Davidson 883 Sportster 883 Iron
90 day: 42.53 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Send a message via AIM to meemooer
did you use a buffer or do all that by hand?
If that is the door after, it's been painted before, i'd be careful not to rub through the paint/clear. You never know how thick it is
and for some small sized colorplast hit up a local dealership, and ask for some license plate inserts. They are the size of a license plate, and some pretty good plastic.
__________________
Randy
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2008, 02:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
What? THIS IS MY GOOD CAR
 
justpassntime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Eastern Washington
Posts: 285

The Japillac - '87 Honda Accord LXi Sedan
90 day: 31.77 mpg (US)

Ranchero GT - '73 Ford Ranchero GT

Spaz - '83 Chevy S10 4X4 Tahoe
90 day: 27.53 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to justpassntime
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
Yeah I wanna get the big dents out. Unfortunately the roof and hood have tons of hail damage from a storm we had a couple years ago. I wonder if all the dings act like a golfball and help aero? haha
I would speculate that if your car was slung through the air by a trebuchet it might fly farther than one without the dents. Sounds like a good episode for Mythbusters. LOL

Oh, and if you find that it does go farther let me know and I will put my ball peen hammer to good use.

Nice Turbo Coupe BTW, I bought one new in 88, 5 speed, titanium frost color. Man, I loved that car. But got rid of it when I moved from Atlanta to Charleston. My insurance went up $1000 a year just because of the area.
I also had a hard time finding VR60 tires for it back then too because the only one that made them was Goodyear and I didn't want to pay $280 per tire. It drove really good at 140 mph too!
__________________
Honda...the economical, renewable resource.



Last edited by justpassntime; 07-28-2008 at 03:07 AM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2008, 05:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
bhazard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, OH
Posts: 500

2012 Golf TDI - '12 Volkswagen Golf TDI
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 45.51 mpg (US)
Thanks: 6
Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts
Its all by hand.

And justpassntime I could be wrong but I think the titanium frost color was the rarest color made. Second being mine. In late 88 they were ending the TC production by introducing the "Mach 1 Special Edition" paint package. It consisted of either bright red (mine) or, I believe the titanium frost color (kind of a bluish silver?) and "Mach 1 SE" stickers in the quarter windows. Did your car have such things? Ive seen a few of the bright red cars but NEVER the "other" color. From what Ive heard they are REALLY REALLY rare.
__________________
'05 Outback XT, 19 mpg

BP-turbo 93 Festiva (long gone)
1/4 mile - 12.50@111.5
Best MPG - 36.8
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2008, 04:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 15,883
Thanks: 23,957
Thanked 7,219 Times in 4,646 Posts
did it help?

Well,you've minimized it.The skin friction constitutes 7-12 % of the drag ( 3.5-6 % mpg ),and by restoring the finish,you've restored skin drag to the minimum,and you've got your original Reynolds Number.Looks good!
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2008, 05:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
CobraBall's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Texas
Posts: 112
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Regarding Smooth Hubcaps- They are made by mooneyes usa. Gto:
https://www.mooneyesusa.com/Store/pr...b5efe351d72fdb Before I would spend the $$, I would do a cost/benefit analysis. The car may not last long enough to pay hubcaps.

50 PSI on 44 PSI tires. IMHO what you might save in MPG by overinflating the tires will be lost when the center of the tires wear out prematurely .

Overinflating also decreases the tire contact area making the vehicle more likely to hydroplane on a wet surface. Not a problem if you live in Mojave.

On the other hand the yellow calipers will be good for at least 2+MPG increase .

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
CdA list Daox Aerodynamics 206 10-25-2023 06:32 PM
Does reducing ground clearance REALLY reduce drag? cbergeron Aerodynamics 106 06-25-2015 04:47 PM
How to reduce drag of surfboard roof racks? Palionu Aerodynamics 11 04-28-2012 02:15 PM
Sources of Aerodynamic Drag in Automobiles and Possible Solutions SVOboy Aerodynamics 12 02-17-2010 02:09 PM
aero-mods,installment#9(internal drag) aerohead Aerodynamics 39 07-11-2008 05:45 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com