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bennelson 11-24-2008 11:49 PM

Cool 4-wheel 150 cc motorcycle
 
I stumbled across this:

http://scoot.globaldc.com/cellcamima...87datupian.jpg

It's a 150cc motorcycle for $2200. Don't know anything other than that! Looks cool in green!

http://scoot.globaldc.com/cellcamima...wk/6386615.jpg
http://scoot.globaldc.com/cellcamima...wk/6387248.jpg

That would be a slick bike as a high voltage electric!

150 cc do get great fuel economy.

Frank Lee 11-25-2008 10:56 AM

Somebody must have been really inspired by the '03 Tomahawk:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...e-tomahawk.jpg

The question is why?

dichotomous 11-25-2008 11:08 AM

definately a tomahawk rip off, but without the 8.0L V10 viper motor as most of the motorcycle, it sorta looses something.....

anyways, this is one of the few 4 wheel vehicles I would still call a motorcycle. why? cause it leans and rides like a motorcycle.

BTW, that dodge tomahawk concept motorcycle, its real, as in it really works, rides, goes ungodly fast (as most things with motors that large do) and is very expensive and cool, I want one, just for the sound.

bennelson 11-25-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 74703)
The question is why?

Well, you can't BUY a Dodge Tomahawk, but you can run out and buy the Chinese knock-off version!

Ryland 11-25-2008 11:27 AM

most states license motorcycles as vehicles that have 2-3 wheels and weigh less then 1,200 pounds (I think), for $2,200 I suspect that those vehicles are not titled, nor built durable enough to use more then a few times.

Frank Lee 11-25-2008 11:28 AM

I mean, what do the two extra wheels get you? You'd have to title it as a car! And since it's a "car", it won't pass any of the regs!

bennelson 11-28-2008 06:44 PM

Both you guys are both silly!

Of course it's going to come with a title, and it is a motorcycle.

I'm sure it's made in China, and probably not very well made. I was mostly just thinking that it was a cool style, and more than likely has pretty good fuel economy.

Even if the engine is pretty crappy, just convert it to electric when the engine blows!

Frank Lee 11-28-2008 06:51 PM

Motorcycle Definition: means every motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, including motor scooters and bicycles with motor attached, other than those vehicles defined as motorized bicycles. (MN Statute 169.01 subd. 4).

Introduction

ASV 12-03-2008 02:28 PM

that is way to much mas for 150cc :eek:
be lucky to do 25 on it:rolleyes:

dichotomous 12-03-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 75394)
Motorcycle Definition: means every motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, including motor scooters and bicycles with motor attached, other than those vehicles defined as motorized bicycles. (MN Statute 169.01 subd. 4).

Introduction

it will still likely be titled as a motorcycle, and registered as such. it looks and acts like a motorcycle, the seperate wheels act as 1 wheel and such it will be a motorcycle. most people when seeing it would call it a motorcycle, and if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then its likely a duck, even if its a loon

Frank Lee 12-03-2008 03:39 PM

Ever try to use logic with a gummint official?

dichotomous 12-03-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 76308)
Ever try to use logic with a gummint official?

funny you should ask, I work for a consulting company gettingpermits for new construction. so yes, everyday, and its quite interesting. once you figure out that they are all on a crusade to get whatever it is they think is important done, appease that to them, they will generally let almost anything else slide. now, getting 2 dozen of them in seperate fields and categories with seperate agendas to agree on a large developement..... well thats why companies like mine exist

Frank Lee 12-03-2008 04:15 PM

Good luck with that then. I know if I were to try licensing that thing and they saw it, I would have some splainin to do.

hypermiler01 12-03-2008 04:25 PM

150cc with twice the inertia, twice the rolling resistance, and nearly twice the frontal area.

fun......

dichotomous 12-03-2008 04:27 PM

drop a couple temp fenders on, one on front and one on back, full coverage just above the ground, noone will notice

captainslug 12-05-2008 02:00 AM

The front suspension is very interesting.
However, the rear suspension looks really flimsy and cramped. I also can't see two shocks back there to corroborate the claim that the rear suspension is independent. All I see is a center mounted brake rotor and a single axle, which would mean only the front suspension is independent. The extra-wide rear footprint will make the turning profile of this thing terrible.

Just too gimmicky. Is basically just a girthy pocket bike with 12x3.5-10 wheels.
http://www.atvdiscounter.com/Motorcy...oductInfo.aspx

I'd rather convert a really light frame motorcycle to electric.

i_am_socket 12-09-2008 05:54 PM

Looks like a good starting point for a very aero'd out little bike. Too bad it'd be too small to ride on streets where the SUV's will run over it without notice. And the 2 extra wheels would have to go. And you'd need an aero backpack to carry anything in. Yeah... better to scrap the whole thing ;)

I believe the 2 extra wheels were necessary for the original V10.

Christopher Jordan 12-09-2008 10:36 PM

Amazing copy! I bet you could get the 250cc version, take a direct side photo to the DMY and licence it here! Gimmicky as heck - might be illegal for some reason, but until the authorities catch on, might fit right in with local alternative bikes! Very clever!!

dichotomous 12-10-2008 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i_am_socket (Post 77500)
I believe the 2 extra wheels were necessary for the original V10.

with an engine the size and weight of the dodge V10, yes, 4 wheels were needed just to hold it upright. though this isnt the only heavy motorcycle, honda's goldwing easily weighs 900lbs and there are some harleys that around around the 900-1000lbs mark, but if I recall the tomahawk was 1200lbs or more, at that point and because the seating position is how it is (very stretched with a very wide spread below the legs, no leverage to the ground) you could never ride it up on stage and hold it there unless you were a WWF wrestler.... and then the bike wouldnt look as impressive cause it'd have a giant on it

shovel 06-07-2011 02:26 PM

The first thing I thought was, I wonder how hard it would be to knock one of the rear wheels off? Bam, 3 wheel cycle and likely more efficient.

Look at how big its "belly" is, think there's some good storage space in there? That's gotta be good for something. Goofy or not, I bet some fun could be had with this thing.

Phantom 06-07-2011 03:04 PM

Just fit a tire from a car on the back and you should be good.

dcb 06-07-2011 03:59 PM

here is the homepage, scroll down to "the quad"
K-Man Auto & Scooters

Quote:

Engine type: 150cc GY6 engine, fully automatic, single cylinder, 4-stroke, forced
air-cooled
Engine displacement (ml): 149.6
Bore x stroke (mm): 57.4 * 57.8
Max. power (Kw/r/min):8.0/8000
Max. toque (N.m/r/min):9.0/5500
Fuel tank capacity:7L
Fuel consumption (g/kWh): 367
Start mode: electric start
Tires (front/rear):12 x 3.5-10
Transmission mode: chain
Brake mode(front/rear): dual hydraulic disc / hydraulic disc
Shift speed type: CVT
Suspension(front/rear):independent double hydraulic shock/ hydraulic shock
Length x width x height (mm): 1710x700x750
Seat height (mm): 530
Top speed (km/h): 100
Colors: silver+plating black+plating
18)Max. load: 100kg
Packing:
Carton dimensions: 176x 50 x 68cm
N.W.:/G.W.: 125kg/135kg
I think "why" is a reasonable question :)

They call out the vehicle below it as street legal (The SuperTrike), but they didn't with the quad, go figure.

dcb 06-07-2011 04:32 PM

I decided I liked the potential of the supertrike enough (mini t-rex!) that I called the guy and got some more info.

The quad is NOT street legal. He says it is just for fun, would make a good pit bike.

He was not able to get the quad registered in wisconsin (came back "unregisterable"), but he did say that someone made one into a three wheeler and was able to get it registered as a motorcycle.

He also said that sales for his little machines are awesome, seems to be directly linked to gas being above $4 or not.

P.S. The supertrike is no longer available :( The site is gearing up for some updates.

bennelson 06-07-2011 05:01 PM

K-Man Auto & Scooters


Hey, I know that guy!

He's pretty cool. I haven't bought anything from him, but would be happy to support his business. I've had him out to my alternative car show a couple of times.

piers.singer 06-07-2011 06:14 PM

This brings to mind the Piaggio Group 3-wheeled scooters.

Piaggio MP3:
http://thekneeslider.com/images/piaggiomp3400.jpg
Gilera Fuoco:
http://scootersmanual.com/wp-content...uoco-black.jpg

Let's not kid ourselves that the Gilera isn't ugly as hell, but the Piaggio comes with smaller engines, a hybrid and a wider front-track model that can be ridden on a car licence. I'm getting rid of my 250 soon so I might save up for one of these. Might make a really good base for a streamliner project - inability to fall over could facilitate the implication of more enveloping bodywork.

dcb 06-07-2011 09:35 PM

I really liked the mini t-rex concept. A fair weather super economical two seater that can take a passenger, or hold your groceries? 150cc is plenty for cruising around town, too bad it wasn't a manual trans, and that it isn't available. Guy thinks the factories that are still standing are too busy making scooters to care about it.

http://scoot.globaldc.com/cellcamima...ke/6524694.jpg

Of course I much prefer 2 wheels for myself and small loads, but this is at least motorcycle-like and would entice more passengers than my bikes.

Christopher Jordan 06-07-2011 10:44 PM

I do not know how long this ad will last; it was on last night and today;
1946 ROCKET CAR~Belly Tank Trike Bonneville Lakester
150cc might be pushing it though.

dcb 06-08-2011 04:53 PM

The tanker is nice, if it were near and if illinois werent a nazi state about anything that moves...

re: 150cc well, the trike is an aerodynamic mess, so 150cc might just be a good thing to keep the speeds down :) But I would still retrofit a gearbox and clutch to make the most of that 150.


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