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freebeard 11-22-2019 06:59 PM

Cosmic Catastrophe
 
Pollution is a threat that hangs over all our heads, but it's not the only one. It's not inexorable like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtbbOsAivK4

So if humankind poops the bed, no-one will know after the next intermediate axis rotation.

oil pan 4 11-22-2019 09:09 PM

Yeah but where's the fun in that.
They can't tax that, make laws to force people to do something else, collude to drive prices higher, ect.

Xist 11-22-2019 09:53 PM

I listened to this a couple of times and had difficulty understanding it, so I wrote a transcript:

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If you were under the impression that the most important CIA cover-up of Earth’s catastrophe cycle was their hiding of Chan Thompson’s version of the event, that’s very understandable, but in reality, the more important cover-up occurred in the two decades prior to the classification of Chan’s book. The government figured out what this planet does in the forties, covered it up in the fifties, and thanks to the patience and document preservation of Major Maynard E. White and the passage of that information to his son, we have that story.
It is detailed in "World in Peril," the book about Project Nanook. It was the government’s first attempt to front line the Arctic, and it was initiated by fears of Soviet attacks over the pole. For airborne reconnaissance, it was necessary to locate the exact magnetic pole. They found it to be mobile and, more importantly, tied to a cyclical disaster on the planet. Major Maynard E. White led the mission to the Arctic and commanded the scientists who studied the pole and the evidence of disaster. Major White’s team believed they found evidence of the cyclical catastrophe and that they had unearthed the layers relating to the last nine events. They found tropical corals in alternating layers, suggesting that the Earth flips. Accounts and documents from Major White’s meetings in the Pentagon document how the government took in the information, interpreted it, and made startling conclusions. They determined that the cycle was approximately 12,000 years, but that the 9 disasters that the team found were actually only 5 and that one had cracked an entire shelf, and thrust it on top of another, both tricking the scientist in the localized region, and hinting at the power and reality of this event. They also determined that the Earth flips very rapidly and then flips back, always to the same positions, which is why there is evidence of the poles in those positions for hundreds of millions of years, because they were there hundreds of millions of years ago, just not all the time.
Now, this meeting at the Pentagon was centered around the intel. Mr. Paul Siple of the Rand Corporation and intelligence officials largely unnamed in the book, but that’s okay, because we know that the predecessor group to the C.I.A. at that time was the Office of Strategic Services, and their top geophysicist, who later continued at the C.I.A., was Charles Hapgood, the same Charles Hapgood who paraded around as a professor while in classified service, the one that told the world that smaller tilts take in 5,000. Every 25,000 years ago was the game. The same guy who helped the Pentagon conclude that it was a fast flip and flip back every 12,000 years.
So, what the heck happened? Somewhere between his classified life and his public claims, which had that foreword by Albert Einstein, and was able to overtake the entire field of catastrophism, the story went haywire, lost the flip back to put the pole in their original position, and was easily debunked, taking down the entire field of catastrophism in one easy slice.
How convenient.
Maybe that was the plan. After all, as the field of study was set to tank, Chan Thomas tried to tell the real story, and it got classified. So, what’s the really important cover-up here. I’d argue that Chan was just the last voice that was silenced among how many others along the way we didn’t hear about. Major White’s story is the key because it tells us that Hapgood knew the truth and lied about it while parading around as a professor, still working for the C.I.A.
The major debunking of Hapgood’s work interestingly largely came from C.I.A.-controlled departments like those at Columbia. That part of the story, the cover-up, and what these people fought to either hide or expose, is all detailed in Cosmic Disaster.
Earlier this week we saw the two recent physics studies of the season that both bolstered the new pole positions and the galaxy and Sun acting as the hand and sword inflicting this cataclysm. Whatever it’s going to take to get you to get aware. Let’s not have this next one sneak up on us. It’s on its way already. Eyes open. No fear. Be safe everyone.

freebeard 11-22-2019 11:06 PM

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That part of the story, ..., is all detailed in Cosmic Disaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zfMyzXqfI

Watch this and you're 1:17:25 closer to when it happens. Humankind has survived these... so far.

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The Sun is perfectly spherical even though it spins. Everything else bulges if it spins. A glitch in The Matrix?

oil pan 4 11-23-2019 05:14 AM

Also if the sun is made of plasma then why does the light it put off resemble that of a thermodynamics "black body"?
Which is inconsistent with gas/plasma emissivity.

freebeard 11-23-2019 12:54 PM

Interesting question. I'd like to look into it. What's the resemblance?

They've recently figured out how the Photosphere can be so hot and the surface relatively cool. Energy is released at the tips of the spicules that cover the surface.

They also found a tenuous 54K° gas at the boundary of the Heliosphere.

When you stare down into a sunspot the Sun is obviously a black body, unless that's just a problem with [visual] dynamic range.

Whatever the sun is 'made of', the space surrounding it is fulled with plasma.

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Can this be true?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzNLI3_pU_4

If all the quartz for microchips come from Spruce Pine, North Carolina and China buys US$120 Billion worth each year; who has China by the short hairs.

slowmover 11-24-2019 01:39 AM

Palomar & Hubble are Spruce Pine.

“Catastrophism” a great read as topic, re Thomas work (Adam & Eve).

So what else is buried in Vatican archives? Lost history of the Phoenicians? Actual Roman music scores?

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oil pan 4 11-24-2019 03:20 AM

Hydrogen, helium, carbon, nitrogen light signatures have spikes in certain spectrums. Kind of like a white LED.
But the light we get out of the sun is broad spectrum, more like that of a tungsten filament light, or any black body at 5,800k.

freebeard 11-24-2019 05:13 PM

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Any matter that has a temperature higher than its surroundings emits radiation at various frequencies. The total amount of radiation and the distribution of the emitted wavelengths depend almost entirely on the temperature of the body and are not characteristics of the material itself. For an idealised black body that absorbs all radiation that falls onto it, this relationship between temperature and wavelength of maximum emission is completely precise. Many astronomical bodies, such as stars, can be considered to be almost perfect black bodies, so we can apply all the characteristics of a black body to them.
Black body radiation

I guess my question now is why elements exhibit the spikes. And whether the plasma is a body or an element. :confused: I need to care more. :(

oil pan 4 11-24-2019 10:17 PM

2 Attachment(s)
A florescent lamp uses plasma and does not emit black body radiation.

2 very good examples of non black body emissivity.

https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1574651653

https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1574651653

You can see in the one lamp the Hg spikes are marked.
That's the light you get without the phosphorus coating the light coming straight off Hg plasma.

So the 15 mega watts was per square meter coming off the sun is not from plasma.
Liquid metallic hydrogen /helium?

Xist 12-01-2019 06:58 PM

In unrelated news, this was just the most convenient thread, here is a video from Existential Dread with Joe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KIcTHfVHFQ

I do not have any idea what any of it means. I have strep and cannot sleep, but it had pretty colors.

freebeard 12-01-2019 11:19 PM

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I do not have any idea what any of it means.
Shhhh! It's another ten days until we can discuss it.

He's explaining it on an Insane Clown Posse level. It's not less important than cl*m*t* ch*ng*. Suspicious 0bsrvers has been discussing the progress of this for some time.

A few things to lose sleep over:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=adam+and+eve+cia
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=intermittent+axis+rotation

It's not every 500,000 years, the Earth flips and flips back again so it just looks that way.

oil pan 4 12-08-2019 06:15 AM

Seen the latest from the solar parker probe?
The solar wind up close to the sun is far more chunky and coherent than anyone thought possible.
So the crazy science fiction idea that a "super flare" might contain an impact hazard just became probable.

freebeard 12-08-2019 12:50 PM

IIRC the 'solar wind' transitions from rotating with the surface of the Sun to radiating straight outward.

Even normal CMEs increase the output, but the increase is put into the wrong category — human-caused. Strike that, it's only the 8th of December.
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I just went to the S0 channel on Youtube and Youtube wanted me to sign in to confirm I'm over 18. No way I'm delurking on such a sketchy website. :(

So of course I went to Suspicious0bservers.org to see it and there weren't no tiddies, just a story about how Ben Davidson was kicked off Twitter for defending Twitter's own policies. Corporate collusion. Corpollusion?
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Maybe you saw the Scott Manley explanation? If not, I recommend it.

slowmover 12-08-2019 05:16 PM

The story of pollution the past century — of which we can’t get enough — is electricity. Or call it radiation. EMF.

The dial keeps getting turned up. Air, water and ground pollution are investigated for catalytic effects. Modified to be so.

If it “requires” electricity . . . it ain’t what it seems.

Music, first and foremost. Have to plug in to play? Then it ain’t music, just ffng around with voltage potentials.

From servant to master in under a century. Is electricity. In what today passes as thinking or emoting. But isn’t. (Free electricity will be the most expensive bargain ever purchased).

The Phoenician Navy has (what is it?) four or five thousand years of modern experience. And the records barred to everyone else detailing several tens of thousands before that.

Stories to excite the imagination are just trials to set the dials

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oil pan 4 12-08-2019 06:08 PM

You have to be over 18 because they might scare you, hurt your feelings or say something true.

The solar parker probe, icon and gold are their worst nightmare.

freebeard 12-08-2019 10:55 PM

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The Phoenician Navy has (what is it?) four or five thousand years of modern experience. And the records barred to everyone else detailing several tens of thousands before that.
I request clarification and expansion of the topic.

slowmover 12-09-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 613028)
I request clarification and expansion of the topic.

Gee, and I thought you read around. (Only a tiny touch of snark).

Alright, this is an amusement park ride. You must be “this”:

With these (below), it’s the questions raised. Conclusions are to throw most off the trail. Hold fast to this point made.

Delivered with sense of discovery. Style. (All stories don’t have beginning and end; that’s the children’s sense being strummed). Latter builds off of early.
Can’t randomly pick/choose. Too much missed.

Brute force reading being called upon. Quantity. Marking each detail detrimental to whole on offer (until one reaches a topic of great personal interest. Then one sees clues, and can judge veracity plus hints on offer).

1). Miles Mathis re culture/history (sorry, start with oldest; work forward. Beginning is FS Saunders: CIA & Art). He’s intentionally oddball. The good stuff is not only hidden, it’s not topic related.

2). Unz Review;

a). Editors American Pravda series starting 6/16. Comments are half of it.
b). Giraldi, Phil. From start of 2017
c). Guyenot, Laurence. 2018 to present.

This is middle of the road site, but quality. Facts can be linked once one knows a few keys. Not only is history bunk (what you were taught), the stuff you “think” you know is on shifting sand. Time Magazine level.


-- I’ll relent on one tidbit: Phoenician Navy: MM and series on “Spookians”. As it’s not AS dependent as are others on earlier papers. It doesn’t stand alone as readers given premises already assumed. Language of Symbols. (Notre Dame burned for reason).

FB, we all know IQ is strongest predictor of success.
(Save one. Family name. Statistically verified seven centuries).

There’s more (and even stranger). Internet opened a window, but it won’t stay that way. Almost none of this new to me as books have covered it for the past century. But not the links (beneficiaries). But, I learned no one else much interested. Till now.

This (the above) is the stuff from fairly deep, cleaned up and presented “understandably” before being floated to shore. (Farther down is far worse). The story of who is promised a cut of the action, and why. What work performed in exchange.

The science you think you know is also falsified. But not part of this set.

If one is poised at the edge of the chthonic deep (the shelf’s edge) there is still a sense of flow. Farther down is where Time disappears . . . and what’s in the Trenches I don't want to know.

(Lovecraft only thing ever scared me as a kid . . .)

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slowmover 12-09-2019 10:27 AM

There is other to read. The Narrative disappeared with fall of Berlin Wall. Many are fighting for dominance. Elite infighting. A crack in the (fake) firmament.

Should you make it through the end of this ride, then other “narratives” have their place. First, though, the tools. Acquired (questions), and sharpened.

Ride Warning Advisory: No Narrative has all the pieces. Intentional lapses. Blank spaces. The rider (reader) has to make his own links. Must understand “controlled opposition”, etc.

The second ride branches off the first.

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freebeard 12-09-2019 01:31 PM

Thanks. I let DDG pick an entry point. So far it's about puns in the Bible and bees. :thumbup:

I will be weighing the Phoencian navy trope against Buckminster Fuller's Great Pirates theory, which has our true history lying at the bottom of the oceans.

freebeard 12-12-2019 11:05 PM

Geodesic domes in spaaaceee....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFPbHRTIyvc

Xist 12-17-2019 01:46 PM

I am not sure this is the most appropriate place to share this, I just do not know where would be more relevant. While I am home sick I am on a Joe Scott binge. I do not have any idea what he is saying, but the images are pretty. However, Hrag Najarian commented:
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Hey Joe, A common misconception in our field of Meteorology is that, if we have more moisture in the atmosphere from global warming, we will get more rain. This is another "truthy" statement. Moisture increases with warming, that is true, but precipitation does not increase at the same rate as temperature increases, nowhere close to it actually. This is because Precipitation is dependent on moisture and temperature. Temperature rising from climate change will allow the atmosphere to hold more moisture, but the rate at which moisture is being added to the atmosphere from evaporation is not keeping up with the rate at which the capacity is increasing. I would suggest you read up on this Joe since it's a lot to follow in just a paragraph. It's an interesting effect that once again, seems "truthy" but it isn't fully correct. Here's a good reference: Held and Soden 2006: Robust Responses of the Hydrological Cycle to Global Warming, Journal of Climate.
I actually have not watched the video yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdhnhknaJOg

I read years ago that the only exhaust from hydrogen cars was water vapor, but someone pointed out that is a greenhouse gas. I believe that I have mentioned it from time to time, but it really seems that if I want to convince someone, I need to argue for the other side.

People just do not want to believe me.

Anyway, the comments indicate that the greenhouse gas in question is water vapor, but in the words of The Troggs, "I wanna know for sure."

So, can someone watch the video and report back? My schedule is full of naps!

oil pan 4 12-17-2019 02:12 PM

Water vapor is most definitely a green house gas.

freebeard 12-17-2019 02:52 PM

I'd just awaken from a nap so I stepped up.

Molecular bonds flex when they're hit with photons.

Sulfur hexafluoride is all on us, it doesn't occur naturally. Increasing CO2 accommodates increased water vapor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcu8pjWNEgg

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Originally Posted by commenter
John Snow: wildling! you make my heart sing! you pull your bow string, and shoot me! wildling!


oil pan 4 12-18-2019 05:53 AM

Arc discharge

https://www.fox4news.com/news/lightn...th-parking-lot

freebeard 12-18-2019 01:09 PM

That was back in October.

Can anyone find the post in the Climate Change thread that had a picture of the Grand Canyon from space? ]s]Everyo-[/s]Many agreed it is obviously a Lichtenberg Figure. Advanced Search doesn't find it and I need naps more than searching page-by-page.

oil pan 4 12-18-2019 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 613500)
That was back in October.

Can anyone find the post in the Climate Change thread that had a picture of the Grand Canyon from space? ]s]Everyo-[/s]Many agreed it is obviously a Lichtenberg Figure. Advanced Search doesn't find it and I need naps more than searching page-by-page.

Im pretty sure it wasn't in the climate change thread.

redneck 12-18-2019 08:45 PM

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freebeard

Can anyone find the post in the Climate Change thread that had a picture of the Grand Canyon from space? ]s]Everyo-[/s]Many agreed it is obviously a Lichtenberg Figure. Advanced Search doesn't find it and I need naps more than searching page-by-page.
Today 05:53 AM



Is this what your looking for ?


Pictures from space of the Grand Canyon.



https://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2...randcanyon.htm

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Satellite images, as well as pictures taken by astronauts in orbit, seem to indicate that the Grand Canyon is an enormous Lichtenberg figure, in other words, a gigantic lightning scar.
https://i.postimg.cc/3ryvJT0t/8-F516...C554086203.jpg



https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/201...missing-delta/


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In the Electric Universe hypothesis, there is an answer to the dichotomy, as well as to the problem posed at the beginning of this article: where did the Grand Canyon’s rock strata go? Even today, the question of the Grand Canyon’s origin confounds geologists. What caused the Colorado River to make several right-angle turns in its journey to the sea? If water erosion alone is considered, then it was also necessary for the river to flow uphill at one point, while punching through a stoney mountain range.

Along with the river’s desert wandering, another conundrum facing geophysicists and hydrologists is the lack of a delta. Why is there no accumulation of sediments in the Sea of Cortez? If the Colorado River has been eroding the Grand Canyon for such a long time, what happened to the mud and sand that is supposed to have washed downstream?


https://i.postimg.cc/NjZnSYXZ/E59-D5...472627-AF1.jpg




https://www.airspacemag.com/daily-pl...nyon-19860200/


https://i.postimg.cc/XNTyrzw4/D519-A...3-F5753-D7.jpgpicture uploader


More here...


https://www.google.com/search?q=gran...H8xFRclMhU8XiM


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freebeard 12-18-2019 08:46 PM

redneck— off by one minute!

Ah well, I wanted to find it mainly for the 'it's obvious when you look' responses.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cb/e3...5a62f3d274.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cb/e3...5a62f3d274.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pO2VVB7Pu...00/Q4XhHr5.jpg

https://itaintholywater.blogspot.com...on-theory.html

thunderbolts.info/tpod/The Grand Canyon: Part One (Sep 29, 2008)
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A few basic facts are necessary to gain a perspective. The Grand Canyon is surrounded by an elevated landscape with the canyon running through it from east to west. The underlying rock strata in the region rises and falls over an area known as the Kaibab Upwarp, while the river descends through an elevation differential of 2100 meters. Water does not flow up over a mountain range nor does it run sideways along sloping terrain, so all theoretical models that insist on water erosion propose that the entire area was slowly uplifted at the same rate as the river eroded the canyon. This process is said to have taken place in a time span of between four million and 400 million years.

The geological models also incorporate natural dams across the river channel that caused reversals in the river flow and were then subsequently breached, allowing the river to resume its previous course. However, a pertinent objection to that theory is that there is no evidence water flowed back into the ends of the giant side channels that join the chasm with the river. Perhaps the most significant challenge to the prevailing theories is the disappearance of almost 1300 cubic kilometers of material that is supposed to have been washed downstream—there is no large delta at the mouth of the Colorado River containing the debris.

Satellite images, as well as pictures taken by astronauts in orbit, seem to indicate that the Grand Canyon is an enormous Lichtenberg figure, in other words, a gigantic lightning scar. As the Electric Universe hypothesis suggests, electric discharge machining (EDM) might account for the Canyon's appearance: steep walls, thousands of layers, brachiated side canyons at practically every scale, and periodic, hemispherical "nips" cut into each rim.


oil pan 4 12-18-2019 09:03 PM

So it wasn't in climate change?

freebeard 12-18-2019 11:26 PM

The only thing I can say for sure is that Advanced Search can't find it anywhere.

Anyway.... Plasma Cosmology>Socialism.

oil pan 4 12-19-2019 03:53 AM

I found it by searching "grand Canyon".
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post570465

freebeard 12-19-2019 02:47 PM

Thanks. Now I'll have to find something else to fret about. :)

This went up 53 minutes ago. I'm listening to it now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD47kvu7q2Q

oil pan 4 12-19-2019 08:55 PM

It's definitely going to be worse and happen faster than man made global warming.

freebeard 12-21-2019 02:04 PM

The question made the front page at Slashdot: science.slashdot.org/.../earths-magnetic-north-pole-changes-time-zones-just-keeps-drifting. But no comments rose to +3.

Other headlines today:
hardware.slashdot.org/.../ibm-research-created-a-new-battery-that-may-outperform-lithium-ion-doesnt-use-conflict-minerals
Quote:

Re:Another one? (Score:5, Insightful)
by alvinrod ( 889928 ) on Friday December 20, 2019 @11:17PM (#59543756)
But you already are. Battery technology has made steady improvements over the last several decades. Lithium ion batteries have more than tripled in energy density since they were first introduced in the 1980s.

Not everything lives up to the hype or turns out to be cost effective, but some of what was researched outperformed the existing technology or was less expensive to manufacture and wound up in your hands. You probably just aren't aware that it was the 73rd article, the 125th, and 213th that were responsible for 3%, 7%, and 5% improvements as opposed to some of the others that either didn't pan out or turned out to be too expensive to manufacture even if they were better.

hardware.slashdot.org/.../good-news-for-climate-change-india-gets-out-of-coal-and-into-renewable-energy

redneck 12-21-2019 08:15 PM

Fake News perhaps...??? :confused:

From the comment section.

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Re: Good! (+1, Informative)
110010001000 5 hours ago
Total baloney. The #2 renewable energy producer on the planet is the US. India has been increasing their coal usage for many years:

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicato...al-consumption

Just more lies from people with hidden agendas.
Click on the link in my quote.

India is steadily increasing its Coal consumption.


Scroll further down the page and look at China’s Coal consumption... :eek::eek::eek:

Back in the USA, consumption is steadily decreasing.


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freebeard 12-21-2019 10:29 PM

Perhaps.

What do you think of Slashdot's commenting policy? I view at +3.5 so I wouldn't have seen it.

The data ends at Dec 2018. There may have been a decreasing rate of increase in the last year. Or not.

freebeard 12-21-2019 10:54 PM

Further to the Electrical Discharge Machining, S0 put this up nine hours ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5znEdCxkrDY

oil pan 4 01-20-2020 01:15 AM

What is the earth's core made of?
Molten Fe and Ni?
But metals like that lose their magnetic properties buy 1,200 degrees F.
What else is about 10,000F and magnetic?
Plasma?

freebeard 01-20-2020 02:21 AM

Interesting. What do you think?

I asked DDG "plasma under high density" and it returned this:
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Researchers turn liquid metal into a plasma : NewsCenter
https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter...plasma-365512/
Mar 7, 2019 From a liquid to a plasma As Mohamed Zaghoo, a research associate at the LLE, and his colleagues observed, however, there is another way to create a plasma: under high density conditions, heating a liquid metal to very high temperatures will also produce a dense plasma.
So, why not both? Doesn't explain the dynamo does it?


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