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Big Dave 06-26-2010 03:46 PM

A Depressing Thought
 
I like trying to get better MPG. I've been beating my brains out at it for nearly a decade.

America uses 5.5 billion barrels of fuel liquids (gasoline, diesel, Jet fuel) for transportation a year.

Say ecomodders/hypermilers are wildly successful and double the fleet mileage - all cars, trucks, trains, aircraft, and ships - and travel does not go up.

America is STILL using 2.75 billion barrels of refined product.

We're gonna need some more coroplast...

Bicycle Bob 06-26-2010 10:02 PM

Or, just maybe, you could learn how to live from other countries. :-(Not this one)

Angmaar 06-26-2010 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicycle Bob (Post 181011)
Or, just maybe, you could learn how to live from other countries. :-(Not this one)

Like every country in Europe.

Grant-53 06-26-2010 10:14 PM

Looking around the world, the most efficient modes of transportation seem to be school buses and bicycles. Coroplast is handy stuff but more available in the Third World is grass matting. I may try a bike fairing with it someday.

Frank Lee 06-27-2010 06:36 AM

Starting to get the population thing now Dave? :thumbup:

Arragonis 06-27-2010 04:39 PM

Coroplast is plastic, made from oil so using that is not going to help.

And you have to remember a lot of that oil for transportation is not you driving to work or you driving for leisure, its trucks bringing you the 2K mile salad and supplying every supermarket via a 4 day supply chain.

And no, in Europe we are no better - perhaps even worse.

Bicycle Bob 06-27-2010 07:49 PM

A few pounds of Coroplast can save many pounds of fuel, and it stays out of the air itself. The feedstock is actually natural gas, AFAIR.

Phantom 06-28-2010 01:10 PM

To cut down on the use of oil buy local produce and meat. Less is used to transport it most likely has also had less fertilizer and insecticide used on it and it supports the local economy.

Bicycle Bob 06-28-2010 01:55 PM

Compared to a vegetarian diet with good variety, eating meat will take five years off your lfe. Buying grain-fed meat ensures that someone else will starve that day. Ranching does increase the overall human food supply, but it is wiping out wilderness. Around here, we are fighting Coyotes for food, and wiping them out.
In traditional Chinese cooking, meat was a condiment, used to scavenge available carrion in an ecosystem that still included some wildlife. All domestic animals make excellent pets if you pay attention to them.

Frank Lee 06-28-2010 03:45 PM

If we all eat algae, and use algae for fuel, and get that stand-up VW mobility system in place, we could pack a few more people per square inch in, and that would be wonderful. :p

Arragonis 06-28-2010 04:18 PM

Anyone else feeling peckish ?

jamesqf 06-29-2010 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicycle Bob (Post 181268)
Around here, we are fighting Coyotes for food, and wiping them out.

What's your secret? Most places, the coyotes are winning:
Coyotes spotted in Manhattan - NYPOST.com

Piwoslaw 06-29-2010 03:21 AM

I say we just keep on going without changing anything until we cut down the last tree and extract the last barrel of oil. Why should I change anything? I have the right to pollute, trash and kill. The gov't takes my taxes so IT is responsible for my actions. I'm sure THEY will think of something by then, that's what THEY are for.

Frank Lee 06-29-2010 08:46 AM

^We have a winner! :O

Piwoslaw 06-29-2010 11:25 AM

I'd give the Easter Island prize to the first (or every) country that uses up all its oil. Or cuts down all its trees (Haiti? Mid-Africa?).
We'd better start mass-producing those awards!

Frank Lee 06-29-2010 12:27 PM

It is far better and funner to dance around the periphery of the problem of increasing demand on finite resources... :thumbup:

Wonderboy 06-29-2010 01:38 PM

I live in queens right 4 blocks away from a subway station. I commute 45 minutes every day to work at an insurance company (about 7 miles). How can i get better mileage?

Edit: Imagine all that above written in all caps. Good call on the all caps filter btw, whomever had that idea. Sucks when you're trying for dramatic/cool effect. Cruise control for seriousness is not allowed here i guess.


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