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Old 06-05-2014, 07:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Trike, bad idea?

I have one of these sitting around collecting dust.



And someone near me is selling a front end damaged PCX125 cheap.



Should have about 12hp, and be redline limited to 65mph.

Would it be a horrible idea to merge the 2? Is there a way to make the gearing taller (different tire maybe)?

I also have a canopy started, so should be fairly aero aside from needing to enclose the front wheels.

General thoughts?

edit; found this thread on the bigger pcx
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Cool idea, but it would have to be in it's own class at the next Natchez Trace Eco Run!!
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Maybe a 125cc engine would still not be the best option for such project, if you want to make it roadworthy. BTW not sure about aftermarket support for the PCX if you would eventually consider an engine tuning and gearing mods. But it still seems to be an interesting project.
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I would sell the race car or not mess with it ...

Is aero that much of an issue for the PCX to go faster than the quoted 65 mph ?
Cx can be improved but what about Surface ?

In this range of vehicle there is very much a compromise between acceleration, driveline and engine efficiency and limited power / power band.


Would call for some calculator work I believe ...
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I would sell the race car or not mess with it ...

Is aero that much of an issue for the PCX to go faster than the quoted 65 mph ?
Cx can be improved but what about Surface ?

In this range of vehicle there is very much a compromise between acceleration, driveline and engine efficiency and limited power / power band.


Would call for some calculator work I believe ...
I don't like selling things, just one of my (many) oddball qwirks.Plus my wife hates it when i buy vehicles, even after I sell one. Its just easier to re-purpose them. The back half is already spoken for a trike going the other way, so this takes care of the leftovers.

Its gearing limited, and being a CVT, it'd be hard to change. A tire swap would be the easiest, but even this is limited by the combination swingarm/ engine setup.

I can live with 55 mph 90% of the time, and could start looking at alternate routes for the rest. Being able to do 70 would be best though.

Its a shame cbr250's go for too much crashed. That would be ideal, (sped but not mpg) but most are sold at dealer only insurance auctions anyway.
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You may find some way to overcome this issue, even if you had to work around a secondary transmission to function as a splitter (such as those Brownlipe auxiliary transmissions used in heavy-duty trucks) to change the gearing according to your needs between city traffic and highway, and eventually to provide reverse gear.
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There are also in-line reversing gearboxes used with motorcycle-engined track day cars that retain the original motorcycle transmission. From what I've heard they are priced as the limited production/race quality parts they are.

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There are also in-line reversing gearboxes used with motorcycle-engined track day cars that retain the original motorcycle transmission. From what I've heard they are priced as the limited production/race quality parts they are.
Or can still work around the gearbox of a random subcompact car for cost savings.
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I kind of don't get the purpose of the whole project.

You could re-purpose a race car and use it on the street ?

It's plain science - fiction for me since I am in France where it's very much impossible ...

What's the engine in the race car ?

What about EV power ?

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