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Logic 02-25-2025 04:27 PM

Does it matter how well it works if it looks this cool!? :)
 
Some spinning Plasma from around 3min 10s here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grl1e4gIP78

A different perspective:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B-lKgcQJvg

NB the rotating cone here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYiBNLAe0aU
The center could be hollow Like this:
(No magnet/rotation. Corona discharge not spark. Low amps)
NB the thrust.
A similar swirling effect would happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnCmvxt2jn8&t=139s

Some more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMKBzp6tzfQ


Now imagine that magnet is all intake tract bell mouth shaped, with a 3 to 1 ratio elliptical alla-ding-dong optimal shape, with the previous videos and the thrust. (and swirl..?)
On an engine with a see through intake manifold! :) And hood!?



Then of-course I had to go look it up. :rolleyes:

Effect of ozone on combustion of compression ignition engines

The full, normally paywalled paper:
https://sci-hub.ru/https://www.scien...g%20conditions.

"...the time of ignition shifts toward earlier crank angles...

...pressure curves also look a little smoother...

...enhances ignitability...

...Ozone addition is found to decrease ignition delay and increase cetane number..."

Pity about the marginal compression ratio decrease.

Yes; I've been reading pgfpro's threads. :)

A very mild, more of a talking point, turbo effect :)
Swirl..?

What happens when you follow that up with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrqBugPPaNo
As in a see trough (initially) intake manifold.
:)

freebeard 02-25-2025 06:06 PM

More homework, and it's sunny outside. Where to start? :confused:

edit: I watched the first and third videos. They don't describe the polarity and orientation of the magnets. ;(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_speaker
Quote:

Practical considerations
Plasma speaker designs ionize ambient air which contains the gases nitrogen and oxygen. In an intense electrical field these gases can produce reactive by-products, and in closed rooms these can reach a hazardous level. The two predominant gases produced are ozone and nitrogen dioxide.

Plasmatronics produced a commercial plasma speaker that used a helium tank to provide the ionization gas. In 1978 Alan E. Hill of the Air Force Weapons Laboratory in Albuquerque, NM, designed the Plasmatronics Hill Type I, a commercial helium-plasma tweeter.[9] This avoided the ozone and nitrogen oxides produced by radio frequency decomposition of air in earlier generations of plasma tweeters. But the operation of such speakers requires a continuous supply of helium.
....
A flame speaker uses a modulated flame for the driver and could be considered related to the plasma loudspeaker. This was explored using the combustion of natural gas or candles to produce a plasma through which current is then passed.[11] These combustion designs do not require high voltages to generate a plasma field, but there has been no commercial products using them.
I read about this in the 1980s. They suggested to make a sub-woofer the flame would have to be an out-of-control oil well fire.

Logic 02-26-2025 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 698921)
More homework, and it's sunny outside. Where to start? :confused:

edit: I watched the first and third videos. They don't describe the polarity and orientation of the magnets. ;(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_speaker

I read about this in the 1980s. They suggested to make a sub-woofer the flame would have to be an out-of-control oil well fire.

You seem to like 'playing music' side of this!? :)
Some good ol AC/-DC might well help with atomization! :D

I think it, and DBD, look damn cool, with the probable added advantage of better economy.

Search:
"right hand rule" electromagnetism
and you can figure out all the polarities etc for yourself, with the help of some visualization.


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