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botsapper 12-22-2015 03:39 AM

E-Ray, the Corvette goes electric?! (or plugin hybrid)
 
The rumored next gen Chevrolet Corvette might be mid-engined, the engine parallel with electric motors on the front & rear axles and also work as generators. A layout makes a very advanced high-performance all-wheel-drive hybrid powertrain (like the Porsche 918). Further supporting the mid-engine Corvette hypothesis is Chevrolet also trademarked new platform architecture named Zora, the iconic engineer/designer of the Corvette. If Chevrolet E-Ray goes down the electrified hypercar route, will it still keep its venerable V-8?

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...82&oe=56D7E13C

Is Chevy Working On Electric Corvette E-Ray? | GM Authority

oldtamiyaphile 12-22-2015 06:50 AM

E-Ray would suggest a full electric, no?

I imagine there will be V8 corvettes in one form or another for some time to come, even if the top models gain hybrid (Hy-Ray?) and smaller engines, more basic versions will still be 8's.

Daox 12-22-2015 08:21 AM

Makes sense. The Corvette has always been the test bed for the next technologies. Hybridization and electrification are undoubtedly amongst them.

botsapper 12-22-2015 03:35 PM

Looks like the 2017 concept could still hold a supercharged small block V-8 amidships but with front end e-motors too. They try to hide the expected multiple exhaust tips. Car and Driver

freebeard 12-22-2015 10:57 PM

Quote:

The rumored next gen Chevrolet Corvette might be mid-engined...
You mean like ever since the 1970s?

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 12-23-2015 06:23 AM

Even if it doesn't go the mid-engine way, a hybrid 'Vette wouldn't sound impossible at all. An electric motor can go between the V8 and the gearbox, instead of the torque converter or the clutch.

Piotrsko 12-23-2015 12:24 PM

Why not put it aft of the gearbox unless it is one of those infernal transaxles?

botsapper 12-23-2015 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 502996)
You mean like ever since the 1970s?

...next C8

freebeard 12-23-2015 02:03 PM

http://corvette-concepts.tripod.com/...res/86indy.jpg
http://corvette-concepts.tripod.com/id6.html

http://cdn.lsxtv.com/image/2012/04/alessi-3.jpg
http://www.lsxtv.com/news/alessi-ar-1-supercar-the-mid-engine-corvette-we%E2%80%99ve-always-wanted/

In 1947 Ferrari shipped a 1497cc V12. This suggests a 1-liter V-8 is possible.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 12-23-2015 07:01 PM

1.0L in a 'Vette sounds odd, as this displacement range is seen as a povertry feature in my country.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotrsko (Post 503035)
Why not put it aft of the gearbox unless it is one of those infernal transaxles?

I don't believe the next 'Vette would get rid of the transaxle.

botsapper 12-23-2015 07:21 PM

It's natural 'Murican mid-engined supercar rival is the $400K 2017 Ford GT, with its gorgeous flying buttress design, full-carbon fiber structure and body panels, 7-speed dual-clutch automatic and somewhat strange-sounding to 'Murican ears, a V-6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cogJb9lazMY

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 12-23-2015 07:26 PM

But the GT has its rear-engine feature as a tradition since the original GT40, so it makes sense to have a rear-mounted engine. The 'Vette, OTOH, wouldn't be the same with a rear engine...

freebeard 12-23-2015 07:47 PM

Quote:

1.0L in a 'Vette sounds odd, as this displacement range is seen as a povertry feature in my country.
It was to establish a lower bound. To paraphrase Bill Gates, 1.6 liters should be enough for anybody. :)

Just add 300kW in electric motors and an 85kWh battery pack.

oldtamiyaphile 12-23-2015 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 503044)
In 1947 Ferrari shipped a 1497cc V12. This suggests a 1-liter V-8 is possible.

Aussies already make a 1.0 V8:

Ian Drysdale’s Spectacular Drysdale 1000 V8

Xist 12-23-2015 10:08 PM

I do not remember enough about the conversation to want to find it, but I believe someone told me that having many tiny cylinders (for deactivation?) created excessive friction losses.

oldtamiyaphile 12-23-2015 10:44 PM

Well, yes, the higher the number of cylinders, the higher the losses, more bearings, valves and followers. A 2x small pistons will have a greater circumference then a single bigger cylinder (of the same displacement), that means there's more surface area to run on the cylinder walls creating more friction. Think of a rubic's cube. How many faces would there be if each block was a separate cylinder?* Now think about how many faces are hidden when combined into a full cube?*

Most car 1.0's are 3 cylinders for a reason. My Fiat's a 2 cylinder ;)

Maybe they'll go the Mustang route of a turbo 4?

*Answers: 162 vs 54 Ok, the tops and bottoms don't add friction, but you get the idea.

freebeard 12-24-2015 04:03 AM

What a four-cylinder rear-engined Corvette might look like, in 1971.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Up-y47U74O...77400693_n.jpg
Just A Car Guy : Dick Dean Kustom Bug: 1971 Shala-Vette Hardtop

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 12-29-2015 08:24 PM

At least for the next decade I don't believe the 'Vette would get rid of pushrods definitely.

Anyway, it might sound like a pipedream, but a 2-stroke V6 similar to some outboard powerheads would be a nice powerplant for a 'Vette...


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