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Cd 01-04-2011 07:55 PM

Eco-friendly fiberglass resin ??
 
So is there such a thing as an eco-friendly fiberglass resin ??

( Had to ask. :) )

And what would be an alternative to using fiberglass resin that is not so toxic ?

RobertSmalls 01-04-2011 08:43 PM

Epoxy resin is a much lower VOC, much less toxic alternative to polyester resin. It's also compatible with styrofoams, which polyester resin is not. I've used it successfully.

Cd 01-04-2011 08:53 PM

And masterfully too I must add.

RobertSmalls 01-04-2011 09:14 PM

:rolleyes:

Thank you, and I like my work too, but it's quick and dirty, instead of masterful. I could spend a bit more time and get a smoother mold and a better surface finish. I could also vacuum bag things and get lighter composites.

I'm sure you've seen 3-Wheeler's fiberglass boat tail and motorcycle fairings. He has many tips to share on working with fiberglass.

I forgot to mention that I get my epoxy and glass cloth from USComposites.com, and they're a great source for such things.

sid 01-04-2011 11:43 PM

I also prefer epoxy resin and have used over 15 gallons of it over the years on many projects. I prefer West Systems epoxy. It is expensive, but I get better results than with the other epoxies I've tried. I've used it successfully with wood, fiberglass, Kevlar, and carbon fiber.

George Tyler 02-05-2011 01:55 AM

I have been thinking of the resin that is used for casts these days, it used water as a catalyst. with polyester it is the catalyst that is really bad.

skyl4rk 02-05-2011 06:42 AM

I'm not sure what eco-friendly means in terms of using a chemical product like polyester or epoxy resin.

From the user point of view, probably the most eco-friendly thing that you can do is to learn to use as little adhesive as possible and still get the job done. Avoid coating surfaces with epoxy and use as little glass as much as possible. Having said that, glass and epoxy is an amazing building material.

I get my boatbuilding epoxy from raka.com, it is cheap and a high quality product.

Ryland 02-05-2011 12:11 PM

I've used Raka epoxy as well, I like using thin ply wood with epoxy and fiberglass coating the outside, it makes for a strong sandwitch that is pretty cheap to build.

dcb 02-05-2011 05:55 PM

you might think about some organic building materials/methods, I thought there were some japanese ww2 planes made from bamboo and silk, non structural compund curves are pretty easy in paper mache, I don't know the environmental impact of white glue but it works as fuelproofing in model airplanes as well as a good binder and is dirt cheap. Just thinking out loud here, I'm sure there a million options though some associated learning curve/trial and error.

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Cd 02-05-2011 08:40 PM

Thanks for thinking ' outside the box ' on that last post.
I just watched a show on an exotic top secret flying wing aircraft from WW2 called the Horten 229 .
Most of the aircraft was made from wood, and compound curves were done using thin sheets of flexible wood paneling , with bolts and wood glue holding it together.
Simple wood putty can also be used to form smooth edges and curves.
Balsa wood is extremely light.

skyl4rk 02-05-2011 08:48 PM

Roll YOur Own

George Tyler 02-06-2011 04:09 AM

just read my post! I shouldn have said orthopedic casts for broken limbs, guess thats not really clear. Epoxy causes dermatitus, and polyester is not good either, this one comes in a bandage that is dipped in water to make it set and does not cause any problems on human skin as far as I know. My wife has a broken leg, thats why I thought of it. they call it a "fibre glass cast" but I think it's actually polyester cloth with a special resin. much better than the old plaster of paris cast.

Varn 02-10-2011 08:16 AM

I have used a lot of it. Mostly West Systems but I developed an allergy to it. THe last batch I purchased was from US composites. So far so good. It does wash up better (not perfect, but better) than West.

A mess to use from an environmental standpoint? I bet it takes a barrel of oil to make a few gallons of epoxy and hardener. Is it better to put in a 100 dollars worth of material rather than purchasing a new car with 5000-10000 dollars of highly refined metals plastics, toxic batteries.

George Tyler 02-10-2011 01:36 PM

you used the orthopedic resin? I am supprised it caused problems, thought it was developed to aviod skin problems, etc.

Cd 05-25-2012 01:46 PM

Aqua-Resin® | Non-Toxic Casting, Laminating, and Sculpting Resin

I came across this much more planet friendly resin today.

Non toxic and water based .


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