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MetroMPG 06-10-2008 09:36 AM

EcoModders featured in WIRED hypermiling article
 
Hypermilers Push the Limits of Fuel Efficiency


Hey: Red's famous!

http://www.wired.com/images/article/...er_jmm_016.jpg

It talks about Red's goals for his rejuvenated Insight:

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It was a heap when he bought it and he's overhauled just about everything ... "I'd like to hit 70 mpg. Seventy would be pretty sick," he says. "It's doable."
Definitely doable!

Also quoted: Rick (RH77), Tim (Daox), and your humble nenpimaniac gets a mention.

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Following the speed limit was quite a change for [RH77], who favored high-performance cars before getting the hypermiling bug three years ago. "I knew I needed to slow down for both environmental purposes and not to scare the living daylights out of my passengers," he says.These days he's driving a 1998 Acura Integra and getting as much as 40 mpg in a car the EPA rates at 24.
Daox lays out how simple it can be, and what you can expect if you stretch further:

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"If you combine a handful of simple hypermiling techniques, you can easily see increases of 20 percent," said Tim Fulton, a 25-year-old designer from West Bend, Wisconsin. "Use a few more techniques and 30 percent is yours."

He mastered "pulse and glide" -- turning off the engine and coasting while driving. "This technique alone dramatically increased my mileage from 38 mpg to 47 mpg on my first tank," he says. "I was blown away."
It's a good article that lays out the facts and avoids the sensationalism I've seen in other recent media coverage.

http://www.wired.com/cars/energy/new.../hypermilers09

digitaldissent 06-10-2008 09:58 AM

nice

RH77 06-10-2008 10:00 AM

I'm really impressed at how well-written the article is. Metro's right -- no sensationalism and just the facts. Great stuff! :thumbup:

-RH77

Daox 06-10-2008 10:17 AM

I agree, pretty well done.

cfg83 06-10-2008 10:56 AM

Red -

Congrats! With all the work you've done on rescuing the Insight, you've earned it!

(The rest of youz guyz too)

CarloSW2

MetroMPG 06-10-2008 11:25 AM

The comments below the article, on the other hand, contain the usual number of typical knee jerk "anti-hypermiling" responses.

digitaldissent 06-10-2008 11:38 AM

you are so right, as soon as I saw them I wanted to post on here! :mad:

MetroMPG 06-10-2008 11:53 AM

I don't know why so many commenters immediately assume that people who drive for efficiency are unable/unwilling to recognize when some techniques may be disruptive/discourteous for a given situation, and so not use them.

They seem to imagine anyone associated with the term "hypermiler" is pulsing & gliding at 35 mph down a 2 lane 55 mph highway at rush hour, ignoring the 7 mile long line of cars behind them. And drafting on the glides (the cars that manage to pass). And then taking the curves in the road at the limit of traction...

Daox 06-10-2008 12:00 PM

Its all the wonderful other articles that paint us as 'dangerous drafters and holder-uppers of traffic'. Its something different and people don't understand. When they get a bad explination thats all they have to go off of until someone sets them straight.

MetroMPG 06-10-2008 12:04 PM

"And then taking the curves in the road at the limit of traction..." in elementary school zones. In the rain. With the wipers and lights off, to save energy.

NoCO2 06-10-2008 12:48 PM

This actually isn't the first one I've seen of these around the web about us here. Hackaday had a post on their blog about us as well.

Great article though, reading now!

P.S.

I love this comment

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Ask yourself this: is saving a few bucks in gas worth the fact that people are going to get out of their cars and punch you in the face for "drafting" them
no sir, you are the reason that hypermiling does work, because by you punching us in the face, we take you to court and then we come out financially in the end. Not mention you will probably be sent to rehab for anger management and have your licensed revoked until said rehab is finished...soooo....that's one less car on the road AND I'm still saving gas.

Red 06-10-2008 01:35 PM

Thanks all, it was pretty cool. Out of all the comments I do love this one

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This is dumb. It's the equivalent of ghetto rich. It would have made a more interesting story had he converted his jeep to a homespun biofuel in his yard. Wait, that's ghetto rich too.
If only they knew what I have planned for it....

It is funny how they all moan and groan and I'm slowing starting to see more and more people do the speed limit or less and more for sale signs in the back of truck windows. Change is coming to all

Lazarus 06-10-2008 01:59 PM

I would not worry about the comments. As of now there are 34. That a pretty low number when you consider how many hits it had.

Nice job Red.:thumbup:

The plus is EM got a hyperlink out of the story and the others did not. :)

Warhawk626 06-10-2008 02:16 PM

Nice article, I ended up reading another. The one about driving 55, I honestly wish we would go back to 55, to me it's more comfortable to drive 55, safer, and more efficient. Somehow, I doubt it will ever happen though.

jamesqf 06-10-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 33301)
And then taking the curves in the road at the limit of traction...

Huh? Isn't that what curves are FOR?

mohr84 06-10-2008 03:18 PM

comment left on wired.com:

"45 MPG from an Insight is an embarassment. My dad has pushed the lifetime average of his Insight up over 60 MPG and can get over 70 MPG on a long road trip. The article is supposed to be about "hypermilers" not idiots who buy a hybrid and drive it so badly they negate all the benefits of the technology."


I guess he neglects the fact that the Insight featured was a junker with no life left in it.

Good Article, stupid people commenting on it....

cfg83 06-10-2008 04:35 PM

Warhawk626 -

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Originally Posted by Warhawk626 (Post 33362)
Nice article, I ended up reading another. The one about driving 55, I honestly wish we would go back to 55, to me it's more comfortable to drive 55, safer, and more efficient. Somehow, I doubt it will ever happen though.

Me too, I miss 55 MPH, :( . There is a 1-2 mile stretch of the 710 that is 55 MPH, and it has a STRICTLY ENFORCED flashing sign also. It's like coming home for me.

CarloSW2

Johnny Mullet 06-10-2008 10:44 PM

Try living is Ohio where the car speed limit is 65, but the truck limit is 55. What a mess that is. It's also more dangerous since cars are constantly having to pass trucks.

RH77 06-19-2008 12:31 AM

Agreed -- lived there most of my driving life. I remember back in the 80's when the 65 limit came out, truckers would play the "55-Game" in each lane and block traffic. The "Flying Tire Salesmen" put a stop to that.

http://www.odmp.org/patch.php?id=2894&s=150

Ohio has the distinction for the biggest 65 MPH speed limit signs when they first came out:

http://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20...speed65-55.jpg

Whenever I come back to visit, I take the limit VERY seriously (more so than normal). I remember one trip, we counted over 30 speed traps along the highway (that we could see!)

RH77

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Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet (Post 33558)
Try living is Ohio where the car speed limit is 65, but the truck limit is 55. What a mess that is. It's also more dangerous since cars are constantly having to pass trucks.



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