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botsapper 02-24-2020 01:07 PM

Electrics spank ICE supercars and hypercars
 
Tesla Model S's have been stealthily entering drag strips and easily embarrass pony and muscles cars for years. The next performance level has moved the forced induction breathing sounds and screaming exhaust sounds from supercar/hypercar manufacturers to go into electric hybrids and full electrics with outstanding and phenomenal performance. Record-breaking Volkswagen IDR vs McLaren 720S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om28...ature=emb_logo

Hersbird 02-24-2020 02:40 PM

I wouldn't call spending $100,000 to run in the 11's is "easily" beating some $30,000-$50,000 cars. I believe a new $60,000 C8 is going to "easily" beat the Model S performance in every measurable performance test except economy.

Still this is a cool time. I have heard the C8 has room left for both a battery pack and an electirc front drive motor coming down the road.

botsapper 02-24-2020 03:10 PM

He has been doing this for years...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeT2lEAaSQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-u3g3uNaxY

California98Civic 02-24-2020 04:13 PM

I love how his eyes are bugging-out as he drives the first laps alone... as if g-force is peeling back his eyelids, lol.

... I love it... but that McLaren was not far behind and ordinary billionaires can buy one today.

Hersbird 02-24-2020 08:55 PM

It is what it is, 10.5 1/4 mile is faster than last time I watched it was low 11's and he is modified. None of those were the new C8, which should be low 11's pure stock, and I'm sure with some better tires and a few tricks there will be a bunch in the low 10's in no time still well under $100,000. There are tons of cars out there much faster than 10.5 1/4 mile times for even $10,000 invested. A $100,000+ car running 10.5 is not really a big deal IMO.

Also the street racing ones show pure stupidity on all parts. I'd be really embarrassed to act like i'd done something winning a 100+mph race on the public streets.

Hersbird 02-24-2020 09:06 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphLL303MEc

Here are a bunch of $85,000 stock cars running quicker times.

HaroldinCR 02-25-2020 08:23 AM

Second video, what's with the launch advantage ? The original White Zombie always ran equal launch lights, and wiped out the competition. This was before the lighter weight Tesla cells/batteries were available.

Hersbird 02-25-2020 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaroldinCR (Post 617822)
Second video, what's with the launch advantage ? The original White Zombie always ran equal launch lights, and wiped out the competition. This was before the lighter weight Tesla cells/batteries were available.

I'm not sure what exactly you are talking about, but it's probably bracket racing. In bracket racing you mark a time on the window and they set the light delayed on the faster car so theoretically they both cross the finish line together. If you go faster than your marked time it's called a breakout and you lose, unless the other car also breakouts but by a larger margin. It doesn't effect the capability of the car or the numbers on the printout, it just makes for fun way to test drivers ability for reaction times and consistently of making a run. Bracket racing is a drivers competition, not so much a car competition.

thingstodo 02-25-2020 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaroldinCR (Post 617822)
Second video, what's with the launch advantage ? The original White Zombie always ran equal launch lights, and wiped out the competition. This was before the lighter weight Tesla cells/batteries were available.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hersbird (Post 617824)
I'm not sure what exactly you are talking about, but it's probably bracket racing. In bracket racing you mark a time on the window and they set the light delayed on the faster car so theoretically they both cross the finish line together. If you go faster than your marked time it's called a breakout and you lose, unless the other car also breakouts but by a larger margin. It doesn't effect the capability of the car or the numbers on the printout, it just makes for fun way to test drivers ability for reaction times and consistently of making a run. Bracket racing is a drivers competition, not so much a car competition.

Umm ... *NOT* bracket racing.

Original White Zombie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rVTIpS5zb4

Zombie 222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCXuXDh9zrs

Hersbird 02-25-2020 12:11 PM

Well the 2nd tesla video from post #3, is that what you are talking about? I had only watched 20 secs of it because it is super stupid street racing. If there was any "delayed" starts it was because one driver gave the other a launch advantage meaning there would be no starter light, just one guy leaves whenever they want and the other guy has to wait and react to that first guy starting before they could leave. Maybe a 1/2 sec head start at best, but it can really hurt turbo cars as they may not have a chance to pre-spool the turbo.

Flakbadger 02-25-2020 12:17 PM

The thing I love about electric cars lately is not just the performance, which of course is absolutely stellar, but that manufacturers are starting to go bonkers on the styling. In a very very good way, in my opinion.

I mean, just LOOK at the new Mercedes Silver Arrow concept. Holy crow.
Gotta say, my Leaf with its measly 100ish horsepower is plenty peppy for daily driving.

It's also pretty telling that electric cars are spanking internal combustion ones, where ICE has had more than a century of development, and electrics have really only been focused on for maybe 20ish years, outside of hobbyists and industrial applications. Looking forward to the options in another 10 years or so.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/XUWH...ladsavov.0.jpg

freebeard 02-25-2020 03:03 PM

What the ICE competition is up to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myp4ul712TY

Last I'd heard, 200+mph quarters was Top Fueler territory. The turbo inlet reminds me of aerohead's T-100. :thumbup:

Flakbadger 02-25-2020 04:07 PM

Holy moly, that Nova had my attention. Not as fast as this completely insane Supra, but the stance on it. Whew.

freebeard 02-25-2020 04:59 PM

https://youtu.be/Myp4ul712TY?t=202?

redpoint5 02-25-2020 05:35 PM

My guess is an EV could compete with these cars pretty soon. I should calculate the amount of energy needed to complete 1/4 mile plus drag/losses. I wonder if supercaps could store enough energy for that?

Crazy this guy ran the quarter that quickly on 7/8ths of an engine.

Hersbird 02-26-2020 08:55 AM

Well there is a EV that beats that Supra but it's the king of drag racing Bid Daddy's latest Swamp Rat. I think he's running under 7.3 secs.

That's pretty cool Don Garlits is going EV. That's like Richard Petty running an electric Nascar.

botsapper 02-27-2020 02:10 AM

Where electrics don't choke
 
In the anything-goes Unlimited Division, where the most exotic specifically-built combination of aerodynamics, powerplants, drivetrains and race car engineering to conquer 12.42 miles of asphalt paved sections, winding through 156 turns, grades of 7.2 percent and an elevation change of 4,720 ft, The Race to the Clouds. Winningest WRC rally champion Sebastien Loeb's insane and iconic Peugeot 208 T16 set the world record run at Pike's Peak Hill Climb in 8:13.878 minutes!
After withdrawing from motorsports, Volkswagen's return debuted with the Volkswagen ID.R at Pikes Peak. In June 24, 2018, driven by Romain Dumas, their goal was to beat the existing electric car record of 8:57.118 minutes of the Drive eO PP100. The VW ID.R broke that record and Loeb's record, it set the new time of 7.57.148 minutes beating the previous all-time record by over 15 seconds! The elevation change robs power from all kinds ICE exotica, losing up to 30% of their starting line power as the air grows thin.
Where electrics never starve for oxygen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K2paIN20mU

NeilBlanchard 02-27-2020 01:42 PM

The ID.R has set a number of records, including Pikes Peak, and the Goodwood hillclimb. It came close on the Nürburgring - it set the electric car record, and is second only to the fastest, which is the Porsche hybrid Le Mans championship car.


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