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gone-ot 10-02-2015 11:17 PM

EPA paper estimate dyno Road Load pwr
 
Found this old (1977) EPA paper:

http://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyPDF.cgi/9...y=9100WXMP.PDF

aerohead 10-03-2015 01:55 PM

paper
 
I printed off the whole thing for the home library.Thanks much!:thumbup:

gone-ot 10-03-2015 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerohead (Post 495445)
I printed off the whole thing for the home library.Thanks much!:thumbup:

I saved a copy to HDD...I really liked all the references back to actual vehicles...and, this equation estimating "dyno" RLHP at 50 mph:

HP ≈ 0.253*(WT)^(0.456)

aerohead 10-03-2015 04:43 PM

actual
 
Yeah,and we get vehicle weight,how they did the rolling resistance,frontal areas,and drag coefficients to play with and compare to other sources if available.:D

freebeard 10-03-2015 06:04 PM

I tried to search on 'VW' and 'Volkswagen' but the page started jumping up and down and then a pop-up asked if I wanted to answer a survey, so I closed the page.

gone-ot 10-03-2015 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 495463)
I tried to search on 'VW' and 'Volkswagen' but the page started jumping up and down and then a pop-up asked if I wanted to answer a survey, so I closed the page.

It's under: EPA home / NSCEP / Document Display...but try this direct *.PDF link:

http://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyPDF.cgi/9...y=9100WXMP.PDF

aerohead 10-05-2015 03:45 PM

specs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Tele man (Post 495457)
Hey, aerohead, take a look at this e-book containing some of my "background" automotive research (HP not aero, however) work.

https://books.google.com/books?id=e9...r&pg=GBS.PA165

Wow! That took some dedication to put that all together.I'll bet that Rick is very appreciative of his 'network' for the data.I'd be pleased if my work was gonna help a bunch of gearheads with their projects.Good goin'!:thumbup:

aerohead 10-05-2015 03:57 PM

EPA Cds
 
I went over the entire paper Sunday.I'm glad for the frontal areas,as they were provided by the manufacturers.
The actual road loads were given from EPA coastdown testing and seem realistic.
Some of the Cds I've never had,but of the ones I do have,compared to the EPA estimated Cds,the EPA's are high.
An example would be Corvette,which EPA assigns Cd 0.70,vs Cd 0.50,from GM.
As time permits,I'll do more comparisons.


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