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freebeard 01-14-2016 04:06 PM

Everything old is new again
 
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I'd add a comment, but I can't think of a good segue.

cowmeat 01-14-2016 05:10 PM

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I'd add a comment, but I can't think of a good segue.
Oh, snap! You didn't!

It's pretty amazing how old some "new" inventions are!

Fax Machine:
Scottish inventor Alexander Bain worked on chemical mechanical fax type devices and in 1846 was able to reproduce graphic signs in laboratory experiments. He received patent 9745 on May 27, 1843 for his "Electric Printing Telegraph."

On demand water heater:
The answer to who invented the electric water heater begins around 1850 with an experiment that was created in which both water and bath, on the underneath side, were heated by gas jets. An Englishman Benjamin Maughan, however in 1868 invented the first instant water heater called "The Geyser", a device where the water was heated as it flowed into the bath

The EV car:
Early history[edit] Electric model cars[edit] The invention of the first model electric vehicle is attributed to various people. In 1828, Ányos Jedlik, a Hungarian who invented an early type of electric motor, created a small model car powered by his new motor.

freebeard 01-14-2016 07:14 PM

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1957 - AT&T assignors (Gerald L. Pearson, Daryl M. Chapin, and Calvin S. Fuller) receive patent US2780765, "Solar Energy Converting Apparatus." They refer to it as the "solar battery." Hoffman Electronics creates an 8% efficient solar cell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_solar_cells

In 1958 our neighbors, the Chapins, had a visit from Daryl M. Chapin. He had a model car that had the new cells on top. When he shown a flashlight on it the car would roll and stop when the light was turned away. Possibly the first solar car [model]. In another 50 years they will be pushing interstellar probes with lasers.

I'd thought this represented the first solar cell.
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  • 1873 - Willoughby Smith finds that selenium shows photoconductivity.
  • 1877 - W.G. Adams and R.E. Day observed the photovoltaic effect in solidified selenium, and published a paper on the selenium cell. 'The action of light on selenium,' in "Proceedings of the Royal Society, A25, 113.
  • 1878 - Augustin Mouchot displays a solar power generator at the Universal Exhibition in Paris.
  • 1883 - Charles Fritts develops a solar cell using selenium on a thin layer of gold to form a device giving less than 1% efficiency.

ibid

oldtamiyaphile 01-15-2016 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cowmeat (Post 504743)
The EV car:
Early history[edit] Electric model cars[edit] The invention of the first model electric vehicle is attributed to various people. In 1828, Ányos Jedlik, a Hungarian who invented an early type of electric motor, created a small model car powered by his new motor.

Early last centruy, 40% of all vehicles in the US were electric, only 20% were ICE.

freebeard 01-15-2016 12:30 PM

Was the remaining 40% steam or horses?

Fat Charlie 01-15-2016 02:23 PM

Sail.

And now we call wind alternative.

freebeard 01-15-2016 05:20 PM

This then?

http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/324906_f520.jpg
http://hubpages.com/politics/Save-on-Gas

http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos...6/sail_car.jpg
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/remove-alternator-installing-front-car-6982.html#post86415

What goes around comes around.

oldtamiyaphile 01-15-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 504831)
Was the remaining 40% steam or horses?

Steam actually, presumably horses didn't require licensing.

freebeard 01-16-2016 12:07 AM

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presumably horses didn't require licensing
That's a solvable problem. :)

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oldtamiyaphile 01-16-2016 01:30 AM

But where will VW put their cheat device?

redneck 01-16-2016 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 504880)


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Naturmobil is the, er, brainchild of Iranian inventor Hadi Mirhejazi, who figured a horse strapped to a treadmill is the only logical replacement for the internal combustion engine. According to the Guardian, Naturmobil uses a treadmill connected to a 20-gear drivetrain that, when trotted upon, simultaneously recharges the battery and powers the two-seater up to 28 mph.
Win a Horse-Powered Car. Horse Not Included | WIRED


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freebeard 01-16-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtamiyaphile
But where will VW put their cheat device?

Whachoo talkin 'bout?

It's air cooled and all the emissions are organic.

redneck -- Google says a horse can gallop at 25-30mph. If it can get 28mph at a trot, that's the power of streamlining. It's like sailing downwind faster than the wind.

Fat Charlie 01-16-2016 07:14 PM

Streamlining and gearing.

jamesqf 01-17-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 504904)
Google says a horse can gallop at 25-30mph. If it can get 28mph at a trot, that's the power of streamlining.

Not streamlining, but gearing and wheels. Exactly like a human riding a bicycle.

Though a horse can gallop that fast, it can't do so for very long - a mile or two at racing pace. Over a long distance, they aren't much faster than a human runner. Winning speeds for the Tevis Cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tevis_Cup average about 7 mph for the 100 mile distance - though granted, the route isn't exactly flat :-) And interestingly enough, it isn't much faster than the human race over the same course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wester..._Endurance_Run

Grant-53 01-20-2016 04:43 PM

I think a streamlined bike will go that fast with less energy output.

Fat Charlie 01-21-2016 08:18 AM

From the driver, or the horse? Cracking a whip once in a while isn't all that strenuous.

jamesqf 01-21-2016 01:31 PM

Obviously you've never maintained a horse. Tossing around bales of hay & feed is a lot more work than pumping gas :-)

freebeard 01-21-2016 06:27 PM

Plus which, the car won't kick you in the leg if you walk too close behind it.

Fat Charlie 01-22-2016 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 505297)
Obviously you've never maintained a horse. Tossing around bales of hay & feed is a lot more work than pumping gas :-)

I only ride 'em, I don't know what makes 'em work.

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Fat Charlie 01-22-2016 09:12 AM

Apparently doctors and educators have just discovered water fountains.

Except ones that cost $1000 each because Technology, I guess. Maybe because Medical, I don't know.

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