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freebeard 09-06-2019 10:24 PM

Everything Old Is New Again
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKRDU_L4kJk

Every VW Beetle is now a candidate to be brought to the forefront of EV technology, with a VW-branded refit with e-Up! components — 60kW motor, battery pack and fast charging system.

I'll be interested in how the conversion compares in cost to an Arcimoto FUV. I may have to change my plans.

https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-f...re5624-vw1.jpg

I'd have to section or channel the body to keep these proportions.

redpoint5 09-06-2019 10:30 PM

More power than the stock motor, huh? Probably a bit heavier too. It seemed to me I could just about bench press that air cooled motor it was so light (comparatively).

freebeard 09-06-2019 11:36 PM

Compare to the Lexus motor I have now, 98lb and 68hp (I believe that's 50kW). That's less than the weight of the transmission, let alone the motor. The weight is gained back in the battery pack.

I watched it again. VW has partnered with eClassics, and the controller and charger occupy the space where the inside package shelf was. It's a heavily modified chassis and lightly modified body, not a bolt-in like EVWest does.

freebeard 09-09-2019 06:56 PM

I just watched an introduction to the ID.3. It's motor looks more like a Tesla than the eUp! motor.

It has a Passat interior on a Golf wheelbase, an instrument cluster that tilts with the steering wheel, and a Pause icon on the brake pedal and a Play icon on the gas (:)).

mannydantyla 09-19-2019 03:46 PM

I love it

freebeard 09-19-2019 06:37 PM

It opens up a world of possibilities.

...because...

The VIN is on the floorpan, so they will have to provide a new one. :thumbup: This comports with the new Federal law that allows 250 retro-bodied cars to be built without the crash testing and other Fed-regs.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-19-2019 11:06 PM

I'm not so excited about those classic car conversions to electric. Maybe if it could still have an on-board genset it would serve right OTOH.

Piotrsko 09-21-2019 05:37 AM

Vin is also on the left window defrost tab, engine compartment, front beam bracket under the tank, and 2 other "secret" places in the body. Probably easier to just redo the pan tags

freebeard 09-21-2019 04:02 PM

Quote:

...left window defrost tab, engine compartment, front beam bracket under the tank, and 2 other "secret" places in the body
Since 1939? From a computer security perspective, you can't have 'secrets' you ship with every copy of the product.

Piotrsko 09-22-2019 11:38 AM

They aren't necessarily secret, just commonplace thieves are unaware they exist. For example, the engine block number used to be stamped with a vin related serial #, but you never see that anymore.

I'm not as proficient with pre - 12volt VW

freebeard 09-22-2019 12:31 PM

I don't know much about DMVs but if they see a VIN on the floorpan and another pop-riveted to the dashboard, I'd be surprised if they expect matching numbers on the engine motor.

In the 36hp era the serial number was on a plate behind the spare tire in the front valance. Later it moved to the pan above the shift coupler. I had an early body on a late pan so it had two VIN, but it had already been registered by the VW dealer in McMinnville, OR. I wanted to buy just the floopan (for a fiberglass body) they had on display in their dealership, but by the time I got back they had dropped a 1957 body on it so I bought the whole thing.
https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-f...headlights.jpg
I guess the 1957 serial number went when I rat-rodded it.

Body shops can't work on my 1971 SUPERBeetle because it doesn't have enough digits in the VIN.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-22-2019 09:07 PM

Makes me remind a situation that happens quite often regarding the early Jeeps and engine swaps, since they didn't have an actual VIN, and the engine serial number was used as some sort of VIN instead.

Piotrsko 09-23-2019 10:08 AM

In Cali, there was so much body swapping they developed a procedure as long as you had documentation of legal sale for both pieces. The CHP inspection station would stamp a new number next to the old number on the pan

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-23-2019 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotrsko (Post 607290)
In Cali, there was so much body swapping they developed a procedure as long as you had documentation of legal sale for both pieces.

The same procedure used to be applied in Brazil, which allowed rebuilds of old jalopies around Beetle frames.


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