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Xist 03-10-2020 03:56 PM

Extreme weight reduction on a 1997 Civic!
 
He deleted the entire interior except for the dash itself, all of the HVAC, stereo, and SRS systems, just the dash, some blanking plates, the seats, shifter, parking brake, and painted metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL7KFeb1e4Q

freebeard 03-10-2020 04:29 PM

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cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 03-11-2020 06:39 PM

Unless I could fit a roof-mounted swamp-cooler like the ones still widely used by truckers in my country, getting rid of the HVAC wouldn't be a viable option for me in order to strip the regular interior trim. At least some ventilation would be desirable.

Xist 03-11-2020 07:02 PM

Roll down the windows and drive! :)

[I will always have air conditioning in Arizona, even though I try to not use it]

redpoint5 03-11-2020 07:10 PM

I would never feel bad about AC in AZ.

Heck, it runs a decent amount here in the winter just to keep the fog off the windows.

How much weight did the dude shave off?

Xist 03-11-2020 07:15 PM

I do not have any idea. I was trying to find information, this video did not have it, and so I continued looking.

Frank Lee 03-11-2020 08:02 PM

All that and I don't know how much weight was removed and what effects it had on everything: accel, fe, anything else?

Not the first time automotive writers (and nowadays videographers) have gutted vehicles. In the end I always wonder, "Why did they not simply get a bike (or scooter or motorcycle)? :confused:

Back in the '80's Hot Rod magazine had a series of articles where they stripped weight from some otherwise stock car, ultimately ending up with no body whatsoever; IIRC just the firewall and dashboard. My cousin did that to some heap he had access to and I'm told nobody, NOBODY could touch him in a drag race.

Xist 03-11-2020 08:09 PM

After all of that work I would tell everyone and anyone how much benefit there was!

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 03-12-2020 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 618775)
Roll down the windows and drive! :)

It's not the best idea at all. At least not in Brazil :mad:

Xist 03-12-2020 03:06 AM

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Hey! I’m not 100% sure but I know the way it was in the video it weighed 2160lbs with a half tank of gas. I’m going to be releasing a video soon showing how I removed another 75ish lbs from the car should be dropping on Saturday so stay tuned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TGv...re=em-comments

The curb weight of an EX with a 5-speed is 2,518 pounds: https://owners.honda.com/vehicles/information/1997/Civic-Sedan/specs#mid^EJ854V

He eliminated 358 pounds, 14.2%.

Vman455 03-12-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 618781)
Back in the '80's Hot Rod magazine had a series of articles where they stripped weight from some otherwise stock car, ultimately ending up with no body whatsoever; IIRC just the firewall and dashboard. My cousin did that to some heap he had access to and I'm told nobody, NOBODY could touch him in a drag race.

Are you thinking of the Sport Compact article where they chop up a Sentra until it's a floorpan with wheels? (I had a link to it, but it appears to have died). IIRC, they reduced the 1/4-mile time from something like 17 seconds to 14.

Hot Rod did a Duster drag car with significant weight reduction, replacing body panels with fiberglass, etc. They dropped nearly 600 lbs and included cost per pound lost.

http://enthusiastnetwork.s3.amazonaw...around%7C29:16

Bicycle Bob 03-25-2020 05:08 PM

I hear that some of the "stock" cars racing at Goodwood have been "strategically rusted" from inside so that you can put your hand through flawless looking deck lids. For super-light fenders and other panels, you can pull a fiberglass mold from the metal part, and then build up a thin fiberglass skin, with a layer of foam and then another thin skin, and a few extra layers where needed for the bolts, etc.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 03-25-2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bicycle Bob (Post 619856)
For super-light fenders and other panels, you can pull a fiberglass mold from the metal part, and then build up a thin fiberglass skin, with a layer of foam and then another thin skin, and a few extra layers where needed for the bolts, etc.

It's often reported that some Brazilian DKW racing cars had their body replaced with fiberglass ones which were so thin to the point of being translucent.

Bicycle Bob 03-25-2020 06:07 PM

All fiberglass is translucent unless heavily pigmented.
In the Kinetic Sculpture Races, there was a replica 1960s Cadillac convertible that weighed about 110 lbs - 50 kg. It would churn serenely across the water on its 2" styrofoam chassis pan, with four riders.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 03-25-2020 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicycle Bob (Post 619867)
All fiberglass is translucent unless heavily pigmented.

I forgot it, but even with some pigmentation those were reported to be quite translucent. Well, presumably such a thin layer of fiberglass won't stand to a lot of pigmentation...

Fat Charlie 03-26-2020 09:06 AM

Reminds me of one of the silly project articles Car & Driver did about a million years ago. The premis was that one of the writers ran into someone about to spend $$$ on a Civic to get it to some really low 1/4 time.

They framed the article along the lines of "I said I could make it get that time, spending under $XXX" and the storyline was "look at what we tricked this kid into letting us to to his mom's car".

They mainly went with weight and frontal area reduction. With a sawzall. And recouped most of what they did spend by selling the OE rims and getting steelies from a junkyard.

And ended with "Here- we got that 1/4 time you wanted for dirt cheap, just like you wanted".

Ecky 03-26-2020 04:03 PM

I believe an Insight shell weighs only ~250-300lbs. It's a much better candidate for weight reduction than a Civic. ;)

Just pull the batteries out and replace the glass with plastic and you're probably close to 1000lbs.

freebeard 03-26-2020 04:23 PM

Speed holes everywhere.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...jzd2eihqoc.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...jzd2eihqoc.jpg

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 03-26-2020 06:49 PM

Makes me lurk about the aerodynamic impact of all those holes, and if an approach similar to the golf balls could actually fare better.


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