F150 first full size pickup with 30mpg rating
 

Wish mine got that.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...cid=spartanntp

Impressive! Even as an automatic it should be able to hit 35 MPG with hypermiling and no mods, which means that 40 MPG in a full sized pickup truck is in all likelihood possible with ecomodding, especially if it's available as a manual!

Someone needs to get one, put an aeroshell on it, and test it for us.

Get the dimensions and have a cardboard aeroshell ready. Rent one for a day and see what ya get.

Big improvement over the 2008 ford diesels that people reported getting 10 to 12mpg highway.

How much with $1,000 mud tires?

I never averaged 30 MPG hypermiling my Forester, but of course those have become more efficient over the years.

I remember the '05-'11 Brazilian F-250 regular-cab with a 203hp Cummins ISB3.9 and a 5-speed manual transmission could get 30 MPG around 50 MPH (and that was the 4WD), but considering the advances in aerodynamic and weight savings in this F-150 (plus the engine is nearly a quarter smaller in displacement) it's still quite impressive that it manages to do so with an automatic.

A contributor on Dodge diesel and Airstream boards (VernDiesel) has covered over 400,000 miles in his EcoDiesel. Averages 28-30/mpg at 65. Above 20 at 80-mph. And the same as I see with my CTD & 35’ Silver Streak: 14-16/mpg pulling Airstream trailers (he does dealer deliveries outbound from near that plant, and backhauls as available).

I got 19 MPG in Dad's 2008 F150 at 55 MPH. What did I do wrong?!

It wasn't a diesel...and probably wasn't an Ecoboost engine either, I'm guessing? Lots of things :p JK

I have been watching for official EPA numbers to be published by the epa for a bunch of new stuff but it isn't there yet. Rumors are the new gas by Ram is 27 highway but they don't have the city, it's combined might be as good as the diesel Ford but that's what I'm wondering. Also the new ecodiesel isn't even possible yet so it's numbers are long off. GM's are also doing a 1500 diesel for 2019 and it sounds like not using the new one they just made for the Colorado but a new inline 6. For me the inline 6 would be the one I would wait for at least to see if it is a contender compared to the others and it looks to be the last out.
As it stands now a used 28mpg rated ecodiesel Ram is the way to go. I can give up 2 mpg highway for a $30,000 savings at buy-in. I also want to see if they do any special leases on the new v6 gas as it will do what I want as well and I have seen under $200/month leases no money down in years gone by. That might be worth a 3 year experiment for me.

Was it a diesel?

F150 diesel 4x4 is 25mpg highway, rather than 30. I read an article (Jalopnik maybe?) that broke it down - while the 4x4 has more underbody stuff to cause aerodynamic drag and some parasitic losses, it also comes with more kobby tires with a higher load rating.

I wonder what sort of economy I could get with this engine in my Insight. :D Wouldn't that be a hoot.

The F150 was gas. I do not know if it was Ecoboost.

I didn't see that. That means I would be better with an old ecodiesel because it will be a 4wd and the Ram, even the old one, is 27mpg 2wd or 4wd no difference. A 5mpg hit for 4x4 is huge on that Ford. There is more to it than just messy underside. They targeted that number big time on the 2wd, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up with trouble either in how it performs in real life or with the epa.

Perhaps there are other differences between 2WD and 4WD to make the former more efficient.

I forgot, but in addition to the tires and extra parasitic drag, it also has shorter gearing, for towing.

That's where I read it as well.

https://jalopnik.com/why-the-2018-fo...the-1825384321

It seems like jalopnik is pushing more articles by people that don't know what they're talking about, but at least it seems they got most of it right.

In my experience, the 4x4 are 1 to 2 inches taller and have a bit larger "traction" tire. In my 250, I noticed decent efficiency hits when I raised it with overload springs.

That all may be well and true but it applies equally to the Ram and the Ram has an equal highway MPG rating 2wd or 4wd. There is something fishy about the 5mpg drop on the Ford.