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whatmaycome14 12-26-2018 07:12 PM

Facebook group/Page?
So it doesn't look like the Ecomodder community is very active on Facebook. Any ideas why?

redpoint5 12-26-2018 08:56 PM

Besides FB being the spawn of Satan, I don't know why.

freebeard 12-27-2018 12:31 AM

Fecesbook, amirite?

Eschew Facespook. ....and Google. But you did ask. Start here:

redpoint5 12-27-2018 01:17 AM

I don't believe Facepalm was started with the intention of data gathering for the government, but it doesn't really matter.

My hatred of Facebook began well before the more legitimate reasons to hate it now; I found it stupid that you had to go to the same college as someone else to friend them. Then there was all the dumb poking. Who would have known that was the recipe for success, and give one of the worst people so much power?

That said, I have an account, mostly because it's the easiest way to keep in touch with people you meet. If I had a business, I'd probably have some minimal FB page that simply directed people to my superior in every conceivable way page.

Stubby79 12-27-2018 04:44 AM

Forums are the communities that existed before FB...heck, even before the internet. There's not much point having a second, separate such community; it would just take away from the original. Seeing that it would just be a small part of a bigger community, it would get washed out if not shat upon by the larger. Half the people on here would miss out on what goes on there as I doubt anyone who wasn't already on there would join FB just to take part in the conversations on there(despite what most people out there think, one does not need a FB account or to live on there).

One of the nice things of the internet, at least before FB came along, was that it was mostly anonymous. Half of the attraction of that, of a place like this, is knowing what you say isn't going to get used against you. You can take it or leave it, you can be in the open about your eco-ness, or you can be closeted about it, while still having a place you can express yourself and share in(Without having to watch what you say because it might offend a mosquito half way across the world).

About the only reason I can see for EM to be on FB is to advertise it's existence, and I think most people who are in to such things will find their way here without help.

Besides all that...forums are a much more organized and coherent way of discussing particular and related topics.

Vman455 12-27-2018 11:49 AM

Beside the fact that Facebook just doesn't work for the kinds of conversations we have here, I wouldn't want to dilute our audience any further. I was active on another forum that migrated to Facebook completely; it was dead within 2 years.

freebeard 12-27-2018 05:15 PM

Know your history. The original social media site was Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, in 1985. It was created by Grateful Dead-heads to manage their long, strange trip.


Notable items in WELL history include being the forum through which John Perry Barlow, John Gilmore, and Mitch Kapor, the founders of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, first met. Howard Rheingold, an early and very active member, was inspired to write his book The Virtual Community by his experience on The WELL. According to Rheingold's book, The WELL's Usenet feed was for years provided by Apple Computer over UUCP. The WELL was a major online meeting place for fans of the Grateful Dead, especially those who followed the band from concert to concert, in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The WELL also played a role in the book Takedown about the pursuit and capture of Kevin Mitnick. Founded in Sausalito, California, the service is now based in San Francisco.
Anonymity is crucial. John Gilmore used to show up at the Oregon Country Fair dressed head to toe in tie-dye. He said there are three foundations to Internet:
anonymous digital cash
One of the most important talks I've seen is Eben Moglen talking on Innovation Under Austerity.

Speaking to a room filled with the architects of the TCP/IP stack, he said it was a failure of the founders to allow the opportunity for (his words) 'a thug in a hoodie' to take the whole thing.

Facebook is where novelty goes to die. 4chan is where it comes from.

freebeard 12-30-2018 02:24 PM

Good news everyone!

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