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DieselWK 08-01-2014 04:22 PM

First 900 mile tank!- VW TDI
 
I hit 913.8 miles today on a 13.814 gallon fill-up for 66.15 MPG in my 2001 VW Golf TDI. Most miles and best MPG for a single tank for me so far. Ive had the car since April and I love it. 70 MPG is the goal!

whatmaycome14 08-01-2014 05:59 PM

Very cool! Looking forward to seeing that. Have you modified your car at all? What's the EPA on that?

DieselWK 08-01-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whatmaycome14 (Post 438150)
Very cool! Looking forward to seeing that. Have you modified your car at all? What's the EPA on that?

I think its rated at 38/44. My car is stock with 135k miles. It needs new shocks and struts so when I do that Im going to lower it slightly. I maxed out the tire pressures (51 psi), drive slow, and coast in neutral whenever possible. I havent implemented PnG yet, but I might in certain scenarios soon.

DieselWK 08-01-2014 07:00 PM

I would like to do some subtle aero mods at some point as well. Underbelly smoothing and a grille block, wiper delete, etc. My commute is 95% highway, so better aero is what I need.

jcp123 08-01-2014 08:11 PM

I hate you tdi people. Only because I don't have one :D

sarguy01 08-01-2014 08:18 PM

Do you have a fuel log for it??

Awesome tank!

DieselWK 08-01-2014 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jcp123 (Post 438160)
I hate you tdi people. Only because I don't have one :D

Haha. After some reading, I feel the same way about Insight people :/
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Originally Posted by sarguy01 (Post 438163)
Do you have a fuel log for it??

Awesome tank!

I keep one on Fuelly.com. I could transfer it over here tho I guess.

Golf TDI (Volkswagen Golf) | Fuelly

sarguy01 08-01-2014 09:05 PM

Nice fuel log! You obviously can drive...

DieselWK 08-01-2014 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sarguy01 (Post 438168)
Nice fuel log! You obviously can drive...

Well thank you. Im going to try a couple things this new tank. Theres a short stretch of surface streets I can PnG until I get to the highway, and the final stretch of side street until I get work is perfect for about 1/2 mile of EOC. I can glide all the way into my parking spot no problem. EOC 1/2 mile/day, 6 days/week, for 3 weeks will make about .4 MPG difference. WAHOOO! lol

changzuki 08-01-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselWK (Post 438129)
I hit 913.8 miles today on a 13.814 gallon fill-up for 66.15 MPG in my 2001 VW Golf TDI. Most miles and best MPG for a single tank for me so far. Ive had the car since April and I love it. 70 MPG is the goal!

Congratulations on your 900+ mile on a tank! Several years ago I had a TDI Beetle and hit that mark as well. Driving style was one part - and the Vag-Com was another important part. Do you have a Vag-Com? Also, you may already know this but there is an egr mod and a crankcase vent breather mod that will help the intake stay clean and not get choked off.

~CrazyJerry

jcp123 08-01-2014 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselWK (Post 438167)
Haha. After some reading, I feel the same way about Insight people :[/url]

Eh. Insights. I love their FE...but...I'm not sure I'll ever get over the whole hybrid thing. I will take a good gas engine or almost any turbodiesel over a hybrid 100% of the time. Personal thing.

deejaaa 08-02-2014 02:23 AM

great tank for sure. i suggest getting an Ultragauge but some prefer the scangauge. it allows me to adjust to road conditions without affecting FE.
i don't think wiper delete will help. pretty much a dead zone that low on the windshield.
my drive is 95% highway.

cowmeat 08-02-2014 05:27 AM

Nice tank!

I'm going to look at this TDI today:

2001 VW TDI BEETLE

I don't know what P & G would do to a diesel, but I'd definitely EOC up to every light. Even with a mostly highway commute, if you EOC, your next post will be "Broke a thousand miles on this tank"
I increased my mileage by like 10 mpg just by shutting mine off at lights, but my commute has lots of lights.

DieselWK 08-02-2014 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by changzuki (Post 438178)
Congratulations on your 900+ mile on a tank! Several years ago I had a TDI Beetle and hit that mark as well. Driving style was one part - and the Vag-Com was another important part. Do you have a Vag-Com? Also, you may already know this but there is an egr mod and a crankcase vent breather mod that will help the intake stay clean and not get choked off.

~CrazyJerry

I dont. Thats a good idea tho. Ill do a bit a research. I plan on keeping the car forever so it would be a smart investment.

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Originally Posted by jcp123 (Post 438184)
Eh. Insights. I love their FE...but...I'm not sure I'll ever get over the whole hybrid thing. I will take a good gas engine or almost any turbodiesel over a hybrid 100% of the time. Personal thing.

I think I totally agree with you. I also have room for my 2 big dogs when I fold down the rear seats. Such a practical vehicle.

DieselWK 08-02-2014 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by deejaaa (Post 438211)
great tank for sure. i suggest getting an Ultragauge but some prefer the scangauge. it allows me to adjust to road conditions without affecting FE.
i don't think wiper delete will help. pretty much a dead zone that low on the windshield.
my drive is 95% highway.

Yes. Instrumentation is on my list of needs. That should probably be my next purchase. Probably a good call on the wiper delete being silly, too.
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Originally Posted by cowmeat (Post 438220)
Nice tank!

I'm going to look at this TDI today:
2001 VW TDI BEETLE

I don't know what P & G would do to a diesel, but I'd definitely EOC up to every light. Even with a mostly highway commute, if you EOC, your next post will be "Broke a thousand miles on this tank"
I increased my mileage by like 10 mpg just by shutting mine off at lights, but my commute has lots of lights.

Please please pleaseee hold out for a 5 speed! That does look like a nice car, tho. Also, with these cars documentation of service is important, especially timing belts. Its a must do item every 80k miles and its a $800 job. If they dont have paperwork for it being done, negotiate it into the price and get it done like yesterday. The guy I got mine from worked with me on the price because of this. It worked out great in the end.

Hmmm. Maybe I will try to EOC and bump start in 4th gear a bit this tank to experiment. That might get me to the 70 mpg mark!

cowmeat 08-02-2014 08:45 AM

Lol, it's mainly gonna be driven by my wife. Basically it's a peace offering since I won't let her commute in her Explorer V8 and I've been making her carpool with me in the Black Widow

I'm also looking at a 5-speed 2001 Gen-1 Insight this afternoon for myself, if I can low ball the guy down enough. The IMA is dead, but the car is immaculate. I actually test-drove it about two months ago, but he wanted 2800 bucks for it then, and I didn't buy it. He hasn't sold it yet, and just dropped his price to 2300 bucks. I texted him an offer of 1500 bucks this morning, I'll have to see if he bites

Wish me luck!

oldtamiyaphile 08-03-2014 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cowmeat (Post 438220)
I don't know what P & G would do to a diesel, but I'd definitely EOC up to every light.

Possibly a good way to kill the turbo. You don't really need to EOC to a stop in a diesel as it will DFCO down to idle.

deejaaa 08-03-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by oldtamiyaphile (Post 438358)
Possibly a good way to kill the turbo. You don't really need to EOC to a stop in a diesel as it will DFCO down to idle.

that is a confusing statement. are you telling him not to EOC in gear? i should hope he doesn't do that already.
are you also saying the TDI will go into DFCO, in gear, coming to a stop, with the engine running and be better at saving/using less fuel than EOC? hhhmmmmm. either i am confused about all this or i'm doing something wrong. i get 60 consistently each fill up and i EOC all the time. should i leave it on, coast in gear, idle at the light and save more?

bhazard 08-03-2014 12:50 PM

Wish I could get that out of my MK6 common rail.

oldtamiyaphile 08-03-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by deejaaa (Post 438413)
that is a confusing statement. are you telling him not to EOC in gear? i should hope he doesn't do that already.
are you also saying the TDI will go into DFCO, in gear, coming to a stop, with the engine running and be better at saving/using less fuel than EOC? hhhmmmmm. either i am confused about all this or i'm doing something wrong. i get 60 consistently each fill up and i EOC all the time. should i leave it on, coast in gear, idle at the light and save more?

EOC is the most efficient way possible, so is leaving it off at lights.

However, tuning an engine off just after a high load pulse is a good way to run the turbo bearings dry and ruin the turbo. The rule of thumb is to wait 30seconds, this makes EOC'ing a turbo all but impossible. This is especially true for TDi's that are on boost much more often than petrol turbos.

If someone has EOC'd their TDi for 100K+ miles and the turbo is still fine, I'd like to hear it. As it stands, I'll just be content to EOnC my turbos.

TheManVan 08-04-2014 10:41 PM

Wow 900mi is awesome!


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