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Old 07-04-2018, 09:35 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I have seen remanufactured leaf batteries for around $2,000 the price of used batteries is kind of all over the place.

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You are correct. However I bought a 2015 battery from a wreck with under 15,000 miles for less than $2000.00. He could call around local salvage yards and negotiate. Some yards would rather sell for less than not at all. These batteries will self discharge over a longer period of time than Lead, so, there is the negotiation advantage.
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I can't remember the last time I put gas in my firebird and I put gas in my wifes car around the middle of June.
I like this not buying gas thing.
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Update on my neighbor. Apparently her first Leaf was in an accident, so she got another one. The second one won't hold a big enough charge to allow her to use it for anything beyond 30 miles! So it pretty much sits in her driveway. Maybe she's just unlucky but I suspect that she's been the victim of unscrupulous salesfolk.
Year, miles, date in service?

Under 30 miles is 8 bars or less, if her car is a 2013 or newer with under 60k on the clock she can get her battery replaced.

Next if she is out of warranty a couple of points.

1. Get a leaf spy!!! 30 miles to the “warnings “ is not her real range,
as the leafs battery degrades more and more of the pack is hidden under the low battery area, she may well find her car goes another 20-30 miles past the warning till it stops.
2. Contact Cor on mynissanleaf and state the story, he has cell swapped about 5 leafs basically pro bono plus cost of supplies, this is usually much cheaper than Nissans fee

She shouldn’t just take it sitting down there are options, heck if she’s just out of warranty or even if she isn’t she should call corporate and ***** a lot and they may do a 50/50 pack replacement.

Whenever I see blanket statements without background I’m skeptical , but you will get no argument from me that the way Nissan has handled the 10/150,000 battery warranty is disgraceful.
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I still have 12 out 12 battery health bars and routinely think about battery replacement.
Do I want a new nissan battery and probably install it my self, try my luck with a junk yard batt, maybe buy an entire leaf that is an insurance write off, or some wild alternative like rebuild the battery my self.

I should probably get on mynissanleaf, there's not as much enthusiasm for electric cars on here as I thought there would be. It is kind of cheating when it comes to the fuel economy game.
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I still have 12 out 12 battery health bars and routinely think about battery replacement.
Do I want a new nissan battery and probably install it my self, try my luck with a junk yard batt, maybe buy an entire leaf that is an insurance write off, or some wild alternative like rebuild the battery my self.

I should probably get on mynissanleaf, there's not as much enthusiasm for electric cars on here as I thought there would be. It is kind of cheating when it comes to the fuel economy game.
I think it’s more because of the fact traffic and posts have been down

I own an EV along with a bunch of other folks here but I think the standard it’s too expensive trolls are here just as they are anywhere else.

That said I have my biases toward EV brand just like anyone else.
I am glad I own the particular plug ins I do as other types would not have worked out for my usage pattern.

I think many folks would find 90% of their driving could be EV but you will still get the “only my car has a cheap TCO” guys arguing it.

End of the day just gotta do what makes you happy.

Those who are receptive will chime in

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I'm quite interested in what you're doing, but I have little to no input as I don't have any Leaf experience.
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I had no leaf experience, looked at juke and versa to get an idea how roomy the leaf is. It was kind of a bit of a gamble.

I would have to agree pure electric vehicles are too expensive. We're talking something to the tune of $30,000 to $45,000 for an economy car with limited range or very long charger dwell times.
Then you still have to have a place or places to charge it on 240v power.
Which could cost even more if you have to hire an electrician, a little if you're just having an additional circuit installed, a few thousand if your house electrical is outdated or your panel is over loaded and you have to have it upgraded.
Or you could charge on 120v power, very very slowly.
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I still have 12 out 12 battery health bars and routinely think about battery replacement.
Do I want a new nissan battery and probably install it my self, try my luck with a junk yard batt, maybe buy an entire leaf that is an insurance write off, or some wild alternative like rebuild the battery my self.

I should probably get on mynissanleaf, there's not as much enthusiasm for electric cars on here as I thought there would be. It is kind of cheating when it comes to the fuel economy game.
I am still 'building' my 92 Mazda MX-6 conversion .. although I don't have much hope that I can get it certified for road use. But I need to see it in writing.

The Leaf is a bit low on the ground clearance for the roads I drive in winter. And it is marginal for range so I would need to mod it.

The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV is a pretty good fit for my use case, can haul a small trailer once in a while, and appears to have good handling in winter and generally isn't hugely over-priced compared to the gas version.

But that's still $58,000 Canadian dollars. It's tough to justify a payment of $1000 per month plus $300 per month for insurance, maintenance, electricity and a bit of gas ... when my gas Hyundai Santa Fe is still running, and costs me $500 per month for insurance, gas and maintenance.

Now if I could get one a year or two old ...

Bottom line ... I think I have a mostly-EV solution, I'm just not ready to put my money where my mouth is.
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The leaf actually has more ground clearance than I thought it would.

My wife is looking at the Hyundai sonata plug in hybrid, but it's about $10,000 more than the regular gas only version.

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