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Old 12-11-2023, 11:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fully Charged Audi E-Tron GT wind tunnel video

Apologize if this has been posted already. It's worth a look if you haven't seen it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Audi...sY1LFyBZc,st:0

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The power needed to push an object through a fluid increases as the cube of the velocity. Mechanical friction increases as the square, so increasing speed requires progressively more power.
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'mechanical friction'

I'm throwing a caution flag on this play.
'Mechanical' friction would have to do with tribology ( hydrodynamic, viscous shearing forces associated with any lubricated, rotating or sliding components).
An engine's internal friction associated with pumping losses is a function of the square of the rpm. If an aero-modded road vehicle is evaluated at a given, constant test velocity ( fixed rpm ), once thermally equilibrated at the same ambient outdoor temperature as 'pre-modification' benchmarks were obtained, there'd be no change.
Same for transmission/transaxle, u-joints, differential, C-V joints, wheel bearings.
Brake-shoe and brake-pad drag would be presumed as a constant.
The mechanical efficiency of an automobiles powertrain is a constant percentage, although varies as a function of transmitted power.
As aero drag is reduced, Road Load falls, placing the engine under a lower load, and if proper gear-matching is not performed, the engine's BSFC will fall to a higher consumption 'island' on it's map, and we can lose up to 30% of some streamlining benefit, indicating 'less' of a drag reduction, if relying on some delta-mpg metric as an indirect measure of delta-CdA.

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