I see a sticky coming. Good work.
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good list:thumbup:
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Excellent list - stickied. Thanks Tas.
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great list, thanks for posting it
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BTW, feel free to add any link that you consider contains useful info in regards to FE, and I'll add them in the first post. I mostly linked to PDF files (all but one), but there are tons of other useful links for sure (from the top of my head I can think of a few over at autospeed).
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Super sweet list.
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Superb! Thanks for your efforts.
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Nice!!!
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input vs. output
Tas, that's an impressive list. Do you perhaps have documentation related to output vs. input for any specific engines (especially the chevy 305)? Something like torque vs. fuel consumption? Any leads on where to find it? Thanks for any advice...
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Vanner, what you are looking for is a bsfc map (brake specific fuel consumption). It usually plots fuel consumption per hp per hour against bmep (brake mean effective pressure, torque / displacement). You might try goggle, but bsfc maps are often hard to come by.
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bsfc
So I've noticed. But that is exactly what im looking for, thanks very much for the tip!
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ooooooh, i like the one for big trucks. My honda uses less fuel in 8 hours at full throttle on a race track than my F350 cube uses just getting to the race track doing 90km/h.
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this is useful for newbies like me ;)
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Thank you aerohead, you rule. I will definitely apply these numbers, the best way being to just put a smaller engine in. Maybe a smaller throttle body would be good enough... No, what me and my empty wallet are actually going to do is just not take the van outside 1350-2600 rpm. Haha with a final drive of 3.73:1 that's like 30 mph. Anyone have a super low (~2.30) heavy duty rear end laying around??
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Paper #2 on the list just went dark. Anyone have a copy or want to host it somewhere? |
Looks like Transport Canada Environmental Affairs pulled it. I wrote to ask what's going on.
Google still have it cached though |
Text is there. Pics are broken, though. :(
*facepalm* I KNEW I should have saved it. Such a great paper. |
Well, at least my tax dollars are at work. I already got a reply from an actual person who forwarded my request to Transport Canada multimedia publishing services dept.
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Wow. That's cool. Unexpected, but cool.
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See the email trail below. I ended up in file 13. Guess I'm gonna have to try throwing it higher up. It's funny how it got bounced around. Just what you would expect from the bureaucracy.
-----Original Message----- From: Russell Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:03 PM To: Martin Cc: Heather; David Subject: RE: Missing report This is the only version of this report we can find that is still available electronically. We don't know why they have removed it from the TC site. They have removed several other important documents and we are trying to have them restored but so far have had no success. Sorry we can't be of more help. Regards, Russell -----Original Message----- From: Martin Sent: November 10, 2008 1:44 PM To: Russell Cc: Heather; David Subject: RE: Missing report Hello, Thank you for taking the time to answer my request. However, this is not exactly what I was looking for. It is missing most of the figures that are in the original report. The link provided is the same thing as the google cached version of the report I was able to access before I sent my request. So, is this report lost forever? Any reason why the report was pulled from Welcome Page | Page d'accueil in the first place? Thank you and have a nice day, Martin -----Original Message----- From: Russell Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:18 PM To: Martin Cc: Heather; David Subject: FW: Missing report Importance: High Here is a link to the requested report. Alternative and Future Technologies -----Original Message----- From: David Sent: November 10, 2008 1:08 PM To: Russell Subject: FW: Missing report Importance: High Russell: See if you can find the document requested (Alternative and Future Technologies for Reducing Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Road Vehicles). THnaks, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Heather Sent: November 10, 2008 11:23 AM To: David Cc: Patricia Subject: FW: Missing report Importance: High Good morning David, Any updates on this issue? Thanks Heather Publication Information Officer -----Original Message----- From: Rachael Sent: November 5, 2008 10:13 AM To: Black, David Cc: Heather; Patricia Subject: RE: Missing report Hi David, Patricia suggested that I contact you re. the request below. Can you help? Rachael -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:57 AM To: Rachael Cc: Heather Subject: RE: Missing report Hi Rachael, I am in Vancouver this week, so I suggest that you call David with Environmental Policy. They may have an updated version. Cheers, Pat -----Original Message----- From: Rachael Sent: November 4, 2008 4:13 PM To: Patricia Cc: Heather Subject: FW: Missing report Hi Patricia, I was given your name by Cybèle. Would you be able to respond to the request below? Thanks, Rachael -----Original Message----- From: Heather Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:54 PM To: Rachael Cc: Erik; Denise Subject: FW: Missing report Good afternoon Rachael, The MPS order desk received this request from Martin looking for a report "Alternative and Future Technologies for Reducing Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Road Vehicles" do you have such a report? Please advise. Thanks Heather Publication Information Officer -----Original Message----- From: Erik Sent: November 4, 2008 1:24 PM To: Heather Subject: FW: Missing report Good afternoon, I have received this item in the MPS folder, I am unable to locate the item. Any ideas? Erik -----Original Message----- From: Donat Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:26 PM To: Multimedia Publishing Services / Services des publications multimédias Cc: Subject: FW: Missing report Hello all, could you please follow-up with the client? Regards, Donat CSSG Service Desk -----Original Message----- From: Martin Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:44 PM To: WEB Feedback Subject: Missing report name: Martin email: comments: Hi, The report "Alternative and Future Technologies for Reducing Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Road Vehicles" which was located at the following url : http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/Environ...nal_report.htm is no longer available. It was there no later than last august. Could you please tell me how I can access this report again. Thank you and have a nice day, Martin province: Quebec |
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THANK YOU for trying. |
I saved that report on another computer. I'll get it posted later.
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Here is a friendly reminder. Nudge, nudge. ;) ;) |
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thanx for your sahring
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Here are few finnish fuel economy related test reports:
http://www.motiva.fi/files/1027/2006..._eng_final.pdf http://www.motiva.fi/files/950/annua...ng_07-rev1.pdf http://www.motiva.fi/files/948/annua..._-2007_eng.pdf Enjoy! I will not save those on harddrive etc, but if someone is feels the need to do so please post links here... |
Find a great source for free reasearch documents:
Free download pdf: truck drag reduction Just write what you need and see what papers are available ;). |
maybe you could find complementary info refrent to Tire Rolling Resistance in:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...-db-18989.html |
...2002 SAE paper on "Automotive Ignition Transfer Efficiency":
http://www.pulstar.com/pdf/TechPaper_SAE.pdf |
a paper regarding effects of ignition timing, air fuel ratio and ethanol on brake specific fuel consumption and torque. This is good if you have a scangauge 2 and wondering what to do with the IGN (ignition timing) during acceleration.
http://www.sid.ir/En/VEWSSID/J_pdf/856200801B07.pdf |
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Well, the many hundreds of millions(more?) of gasoline engines, designed & built to burn 100% gasoline, are still at their best when burning 100% gasoline..... no tinkering or expensive or time consuming modifications need apply. This is NOT rocket science, but it is good 100% gasoline engine science. |
I saw the "Reduced Air Pollution ... with Pre-Heated Engines" paper mentioned in another thread, but it's no longer available through the link in the OP. If this is the same one, could the OP be updated? https://www.witpress.com/Secure/elib.../UT98035FU.pdf
Similarly, the "REDUCED COLD START EMISSIONS THROUGH USE OF ELECTRIC ENGINE HEATERS" paper can now be found here: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc...=rep1&type=pdf |
diesel engine optimization: http://lib.dr.iastate.edu/cgi/viewco...87&context=etd
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Hydrogen Loonies* will want to read this one
NASA on Gasoline/Hydrogen blends and changes in combustion It goes through the benefits and total energy usage of hydrogen. TLDR: Gasoline usage goes down, but total energy use goes up in most cases, and only gets low % better under ideal cases (not enough to counter hydrogen manufacture inefficiencies, they were using bottled hydrogen and not manufactured on demand), but combustion & emissions benefits are a real thing. *I used to be a hydrogen enthusiast/loony. I even made my own very high volume electrolysis hydrogen generators. I kept a proper open mind though (not a 'the man hides this secret tech' open mind, the kind of open mind where you thoroughly explore the merits behind any given argument). This paper ended that particular fantasy, as it was able to confirm why I thought hydrogen should work, in a worst case efficiency scenario (most room for improvement), and all my theories were correct. They also had energy usage numbers that actually stack up, against HHO generation. |
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Here is a graph I have not seen before
Sadly it emits any units so no comparison between with emissions equipment and without can be made, sadly the graph was made without EGR which would likely make a tremendous difference on the bottom graph going right Can anyone find this WITH UNITS? Source https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th....339010/page-2 |
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