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nimblemotors 09-02-2015 02:56 AM

Geo Metro Harley 3-wheeler
 
Thought I'd share this thing I ran into on CL. Guy needs to finish it.

1995 GeoMetro Harley Tryke

http://images.craigslist.org/00707_k...aJ_600x450.jpg

http://images.craigslist.org/00a0a_i...00_600x450.jpg

http://images.craigslist.org/00E0E_4...Nw_600x450.jpg

redneck 09-02-2015 05:16 AM

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That is super cool...

Thanks for posting.


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euromodder 09-02-2015 10:13 AM

The poor (and dry) man's Morgan 3wheeler :thumbup:

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-02-2015 02:36 PM

That's an interesting project to say the least. I have been thinking about the viability of Harley-Davidson engine swaps into cars for a long time...

oil pan 4 09-02-2015 02:52 PM

This person is going to build them selves an eilo in 1/4 the time if that and for less money than the real thing.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-02-2015 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oil pan 4 (Post 492047)
This person is going to build them selves an eilo in 1/4 the time if that and for less money than the real thing.

There are a few companies supplying V-Twin engines similar to the older Harley-Davidson ones. That would be so easy to find one suitable to the Elio.

Hersbird 09-03-2015 03:00 PM

I don't get the part were they say needs a front suspension and subframe to make it work. Are the pictures of the car that is for sale or a different one?
There is an Dodge Stealth near me tagged to be towed for abandonment. Makes me want to buy that at the auction and try something similar.

elhigh 09-03-2015 04:03 PM

That's cool. The big twin should be able to drag that around with no trouble.

Too bad about making it into a single-seater. But that brings it around to something along the lines of a Corbin Merlin.
http://www.picautos.com/images/corbin-merlin-02.jpg

I've thought about something kind of like this using a big Briggs twin, or the Kohler liquid-cooled twin diesel.

freebeard 09-03-2015 10:52 PM

Here's a Motoguzzi V-twin on a VW transaxle.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...4-guzzi-vw.gif

Hersbird 09-04-2015 01:26 AM

I wonder about that new Honda parallel 1000cc twin in the African Twin.
Maximum power: 70 kW (93.9hp) @ 7500 rpm
Maximum torque: 98 N.m (72.3 lb-ft.) @ 6000 rpm
The whole motorcycle is just over 500 pounds, probably a light motor. I think just keeping it single RWD and mounting the motor behind the seat and cabin would be the way to go.
Something like this http://angloisrael.com/reversetrike/...larator23s.jpg

I see we already have a similar thread on this
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...s-23029-6.html

elhigh 09-04-2015 08:39 AM

The old Brazilian motorcycle company Amazonas used an entire VW Beetle drivetrain, engine AND transaxle, for their big cruiser.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9RcC5YFUSw...as+eSporte.jpg

The way I understand it they just welded the diff spiders and welded a sprocket to the right side. I have no idea how the shifter worked but as I recall reverse was intact and worked - pretty handy when you have a bike so big that people at the bus stop stand up and dig for change when it goes by.

You could put something like that into a three-wheeler. Air cooled for minimal plumbing, all the engineering is done, MOUNTAINS of go-fast parts if you want to roll that way, and a nice, low installation to keep the CG down around the floor.

Frank Lee 09-04-2015 09:22 AM

I recall a cycle mag in the early '80s- I think Cycle World- relentlessly criticizing the bike for it's size. They did concede some praise after one with a hot-rod VW engine compared favorably to the V-Max at the drags.

Fast forward a few decades to now and of course cc's = scrotum capacity; I don't recall any such criticism heaped upon monstrosities like Boss Hoss' and other factory bikes LARGER than the Amazonas. Go figure.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-04-2015 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 492177)
Here's a Motoguzzi V-twin on a VW transaxle.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...4-guzzi-vw.gif

Interesting. I've been considering to try a similar setup, but with a Harley-Davidson engine instead.

freebeard 09-04-2015 12:43 PM

Hersbird -- Nice kabinenroller. Do you have a link to the source or more info?

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr -- I think Harleys are expensive compared to VW engines, but I can't find supporting evidence. Here's Von Dutch's effort— a VW flat four in a shaft-drive Harley XA frame.

http://www.nationalmcmuseum.org/wp-c...4-682x1024.jpg
http://www.nationalmcmuseum.org/american-pickers-vondutch-xavw-hits-museum/

Nice pinstripes. 2CV-based stuff in Merry Old England.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...-p1000641n.jpg

Hersbird 09-04-2015 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 492213)
Hersbird -- Nice kabinenroller. Do you have a link to the source or more info?


I got it off reversetrike but the links from there to the company seem dead.
Reverse Trike Club & Street Driven Quads

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-04-2015 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 492213)
I think Harleys are expensive compared to VW engines, but I can't find supporting evidence.

Indeed, but a Harley-Davidson engine would still be reasonable for some projects, as it's one of the few EPA-certified air-cooled engines still around. Anyway, a V-Twin would still have a more homogeneous cooling than the flat-4, considering that both engines would be longitudinally-mounted, and the fewer moving parts are also advantageous. Pumping losses might also be smaller. I would still consider to fit a Twin Cam 96 into a Kombi instead of the EA-111 water-cooled inline-4 used in the late ones...

freebeard 09-04-2015 04:45 PM

The EPA tentacles reach into Grande do Sol?

Here's a Harley in a sandrail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMPj6TGLoGA

Here's a 5-liter V-twin made with Pratt & Whitney pistons and cylinders:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnrzZQVtkeM

...as compared to a radial engine made from VW pistons and cylinders that's also on Youtube.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 09-05-2015 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 492236)
The EPA tentacles reach into Grande do Sol?

No, that was just for reference about it being compliant to current emission standards, making it a reasonable option for engine swaps where emissions-compliance is enforced. For example, I would have a hard time trying to license my dad's Impreza if I slapped a VW flat-4 into it, but a Twim Cam 96 with EFI would be OK...

elhigh 09-15-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 492202)
I recall a cycle mag in the early '80s- I think Cycle World- relentlessly criticizing the bike for it's size. They did concede some praise after one with a hot-rod VW engine compared favorably to the V-Max at the drags.

Frank,

You read the exact same article I did - you might even recognize the "bus stop" phrase, that's where I plagiarized it from.

Do you remember that at the drags the bike kept skipping the 1-2 shift, so to get the best time they started in 2nd? Or to make it handle the higher power they upgraded to a bus clutch?

It's amazing, the details that stay with you. I haven't seen that magazine - let alone that article - in about 30 years.

Frank Lee 09-16-2015 10:51 PM

Yup, that's the one. It was in that issue or a subsequent one where they said the bike should have it's own zip code. :rolleyes:


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