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MetroMPG 11-27-2007 08:35 PM

Geo Metro rear wheel skirts - 2 examples
 
not sure if these images will show up in this forum (sometimes you have to be logged in to the hosting forum site to view em. so i'm posting links as well...)

sheet metal wheel skirts with dzus fasteners on a 95+ suzukiclone:

http://www.teamswift.net/album_page.php?pic_id=7942 ...
http://www.teamswift.net/album_page.php?pic_id=7941 ...
http://www.teamswift.net/album_page.php?pic_id=7940 ...
http://www.teamswift.net/album_page.php?pic_id=7939 ...

http://www.teamswift.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=7942

http://www.teamswift.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=7941

MetroMPG 11-27-2007 08:35 PM

The guy who made those posted a description of his methods here:

http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=23334

MetroMPG 11-27-2007 08:36 PM

some pics of my car's skirts project... well, one of this weekend's projects!

click to zoom.

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/s...-velcro.th.jpg

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/skirts-gap.th.jpg

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/s...ear-3-4.th.jpg

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/skirts-rear.th.jpg

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/s...ng-back.th.jpg

MetroMPG 11-27-2007 08:45 PM

My skirts were originally held on with velcro. i decided against drilling thru the sheet metal for fasteners because of rust concerns. i probably could have sealed it properly, but i have a bad habit of doing things the hard way. http://www.gassavers.org/images/smilies/frown.gif

MetroMPG 11-27-2007 08:46 PM

Including making the prototype/mockup, i'd say probably 3 or 4 hrs went into making the skirts. And I have another hr -ish to go to finish the driver's side.

Quote:
I noticed in the pics that you still have your mud flaps on. If you took them off wouldn't that help with the drag also?
yup. absolutely right. but...

- the rears serve as a handy attachment point for the skirts, saving having to form a more complex shape at the trailing edge to meet the bumper. so there's that functional reason. plus,

I've since removed the front mudflaps though.

MetroMPG 11-27-2007 10:38 PM

10-26-2006, 08:50 Pm
 
I had the car rust-treated today, so I removed the rear wheel skirts.

This is the first time I've had them off since I made them back in late April. The velcro did a good job holding them on the car, but as predicted, the glue holding the velcro to the car/skirts wasn't as strong as the velcro itself, and some of it pulled off.

So I've got to fix that. Plus I'm going to put some coroplast backing on the skirts to make them a little bit more rigid. Krazy Karpet gets too soft in the summer - and I may have heard them "flapping" once.

bbb3108 02-25-2008 10:06 AM

Plastic and velcro?! Awesome, I think this is the direction I am going to take for my wheel skirts as well. Once I tune up my 91 civic and get some accurate MPG numbers, I might have a few questions for you. That will probably be at least a month away.

MetroMPG 02-26-2008 08:37 PM

Neither the plastic nor the velcro turned out to be awesome in the end.

I had to reinforce the plastic (too thin - in the heat of summer, it was wobbly). And the first time I removed the skirt, I tore most of the velcro off (meaning, the velcro stuck together and I tore it away from the adhesive).

donee 02-27-2008 08:13 PM

Hi Metro,

Various plastics have socalled low suface activity. Or in other words, glues wont stick. One plastic that glue likes is ABS. Another is rigid PCV. PP, PE and other olefins do not stick well. Epoxy in particular will not stick to PE.

MetroMPG 02-27-2008 08:33 PM

Hi donee - I used a kind of thick silicone type stuff. I don't remember exactly what type it was, which isn't very useful. It pulled equally off the painted surface of the wheel arch lip as well as the skirt plastic itself.

Regardless, velcro wasn't practical. Even if the adhesive had stuck, it was too hard to install & uninstall the skirt (the velcro would grab before you had it in position, etc.)

donee 02-27-2008 10:09 PM

Hi MetroMPG,

The 3M ball and loop stuff can be positioned before it attaches. But it requires allot of attachment force. This is what is used on the I-Pass boxes here in Illinois. Also, 3M puts it on the back of their anti-static testers for attaching to cabinets - lasts for years...


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