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jeff88 12-12-2013 02:19 AM

Global Warming is Bad...
 
for piracy that is!

http://kristinhoppe.files.wordpress....5b410228_o.jpg

Found this while do some homework for my Environmental Studies class.

JasonG 12-12-2013 07:00 AM

Stop global warming, save the pirates !
or
Prevent piracy, increase global warming !

P-hack 12-12-2013 09:20 AM

may you be touched by his noodley appendage

redyaris 12-12-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff88 (Post 402723)
for piracy that is!

http://kristinhoppe.files.wordpress....5b410228_o.jpg

Found this while do some homework for my Environmental Studies class.

...only 17 pirates in 2000... :confused:let me check if Sumalia is still part of Planet Earth...;)

Fat Charlie 12-12-2013 11:32 AM

You'd expect that as the oceans rise, taking more of the Earth's surface, there would be more pirates- not fewer.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0GrYnx2BNU...rld+-+dead.jpg

jamesqf 12-12-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by redyaris (Post 402746)
...only 17 pirates in 2000... :confused:let me check if Sumalia is still part of Planet Earth...;)

Not to mention the Russian Arctic, and other places where Greenpeace et. al. carry out 'protest' actions that arguably are piracy under the law.

And the many other places where locals board & rob yachts... You can get any correlation you want, when you select which data to include.

jeff88 12-12-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by redyaris (Post 402746)
...only 17 pirates in 2000... :confused:let me check if Sumalia is still part of Planet Earth...;)

I thought about that to, not sure which 17 people there counting. Maybe Caribbean pirates like history's famous piracy location?

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Originally Posted by Fat Charlie (Post 402751)
You'd expect that as the oceans rise, taking more of the Earth's surface, there would be more pirates- not fewer.

I'd bet if/when they start to rise to an alarming level, you will see more piratical forms.

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 402761)
Not to mention the Russian Arctic, and other places where Greenpeace et. al. carry out 'protest' actions that arguably are piracy under the law.

Now that's just a whole nother ball game! The question is where do you go from piracy to terrorists? They're not stealing, they are destroying and mutilating.

Xist 12-12-2013 02:11 PM

On a more serious note, I once learned from a documentary that contractors are real pirates. I believe that it was called "The Flintstones."

P-hack 12-12-2013 02:15 PM

Yes, the Flintstones, that is how we know dinosaurs and people coexisted too.

Arragonis 12-13-2013 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by P-hack (Post 402769)
Yes, the Flintstones, that is how we know dinosaurs and people coexisted too.

Raquel Welch did that too. :cool:

wdb 12-13-2013 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Arragonis (Post 402860)
Raquel Welch did that too. :cool:

There is someone I wouldn't mind doing some coexisting with.

jamesqf 12-13-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff88 (Post 402762)
Now that's just a whole nother ball game! The question is where do you go from piracy to terrorists? They're not stealing, they are destroying and mutilating.

Yeah, that was my point: you can get any stupid correlation you want, if you carefully select the data - as for instance choosing exactly who you'll define as a 'pirate' - to produce the results you want.

Xist 12-13-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 402899)
Yeah, that was my point: you can get any stupid correlation you want, if you carefully select the data - as for instance choosing exactly who you'll define as a 'pirate' - to produce the results you want.

I remember an episode of "Square One" where the team on Mathnet investigated claims that eating chuckberries caused acne and determined that the chuckberry eaters were teenage boys while the control group was old people.

That is what you are saying, right? :)

jeff88 12-13-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 402902)
I remember an episode of "Square One" where the team on Mathnet investigated claims that eating chuckberries caused acne and determined that the chuckberry eaters were teenage boys while the control group was old people.

That is what you are saying, right? :)

I'm not sure if that is exactly what jamesqf is saying, but that is what my guest speaker was saying. He was showing that even though there is a correlation, doesn't mean that one affects the other or vice-versa. He also talked about randomizing things, so you don't get mistakes like that. Both groups should have been mixed with old and young people.

It sounds to me like your scenario was more of a mistake, where as my scenario has 'rules' about who a pirate is, which is more of what he was alluding to, I think.

P-hack 12-13-2013 05:14 PM

Actually, it is no mistake. The origins of that graph are from a school kid in Kansas who was protesting the teaching of "intelligent design" and even blossomed into "talk like a pirate day"! (my favorite holiday apart from towel day).

Correlation != causation, we are here and that is about all we can say about it with any authority.

Open Letter To Kansas School Board « Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

XYZ 12-13-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by P-hack (Post 402917)
Actually, it is no mistake. The origins of that graph are from a school kid in Kansas who was protesting the teaching of "intelligent design" and even blossomed into "talk like a pirate day"! (my favorite holiday apart from towel day).

Correlation != causation, we are here and that is about all we can say about it with any authority.

Open Letter To Kansas School Board « Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

Since the OP has trolled the bait through our pond, we now know where it originated. Thanks for exposing the bait. :thumbup:

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It sounds to me like your scenario was more of a mistake, where as my scenario has 'rules' about who a pirate is, which is more of what he was alluding to, I think.
Also: I didn't think pirates obeyed any rules. If they did, they weren't really pirates...:rolleyes:

BTW, when is "towel day? Maybe I could appreciate it and celebrate it. :)

P-hack 12-13-2013 09:55 PM

please don't refer to my sacred artifacts as "bait" ;)

Towel Day

jeff88 12-14-2013 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by P-hack (Post 402917)
Actually, it is no mistake. The origins of that graph are from a school kid in Kansas who was protesting the teaching of "intelligent design" and even blossomed into "talk like a pirate day"!

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Originally Posted by XYZ (Post 402929)
Also: I didn't think pirates obeyed any rules. If they did, they weren't really pirates...:rolleyes:

I think you guys might have misunderstood me. Neither scenario (mine or the one Xist offered) was a mistake in the fact that we brought either one to the table, nor the information presented was a mistake. The scenario that Xist brought up had a mistake by the investigators. That is what I was talking about. They should have randomized the people in the groups to eliminate any errors in data.

The 'rules' I was alluding to had nothing to do with pirate's actions. The rule was whatever rule the original creator (Bobby Henderson) of the graph used to determine what a 'pirate' is, which determined how many there actually are.

P-hack 12-14-2013 08:11 AM

Yes, they need to look/act like "stereotypical" pirates to have any effect on global warming... It isn't talk like a Somalian day, sheesh!

NachtRitter 12-14-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redyaris (Post 402746)
...only 17 pirates in 2000... :confused:let me check if Sumalia is still part of Planet Earth...;)

Here you go...

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Somalia has the highest number of Pirates AND the lowest Carbon emissions of any country. Coincidence?
Somalia – Lots of Pirates, low Carbon Emissions « Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

Superfuelgero 12-14-2013 06:48 PM

We have stop stop and think about the world we leave for our children. I can't imagine my children's-children growing up in a world without raping and pillaging. "THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!"

...it's drivin' me nuts.

XYZ 12-14-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xntrx (Post 403006)
We have stop stop and think about the world we leave for our children. I can't imagine my children's-children growing up in a world without raping and pillaging. "THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!"

...it's drivin' me nuts.

Would it help if we offered you a towel?

jamesqf 12-15-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist (Post 402902)
I remember an episode of "Square One" where the team on Mathnet investigated claims that eating chuckberries caused acne and determined that the chuckberry eaters were teenage boys while the control group was old people.

Excuse the digression, but what the heck is a chuckberry?

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That is what you are saying, right? :)
Sort of, yes. Same principle, in that they're selecting groups to get the results the want.

gone-ot 12-15-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesqf (Post 403049)
Excuse the digression, but what the heck is a chuckberry?



Sort of, yes. Same principle, in that they're selecting groups to get the results they want.

...euphemistically referred to as "...cherry picking..."

Arragonis 12-16-2013 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Tele man (Post 403056)
...euphemistically referred to as "...cherry picking..."

"you need to pick cherries to make cherry pie"

NachtRitter 12-16-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Arragonis (Post 403107)
"you need to pick cherries to make cherry pie charts"

... fixed ...

gone-ot 12-16-2013 12:14 PM

Uh, which: charts or tarts (especially considering the British humor)?


For Arragonis: "Quid, inquam, ego non" -- a simile' with your quote.

Arragonis 12-17-2013 04:17 AM

"You need to pick cherries to make cherry pirates."

Sorry, I'll get me coat...

NachtRitter 12-17-2013 10:08 AM

Arrr arr arr

gone-ot 12-17-2013 01:59 PM

...the "eye patch" hinders my reading abilities and the "hook" raises hell with my keyboard typing!

Arragonis 12-17-2013 02:07 PM

The wooden leg is organic though, and recyclable.

Also make sure you know which side the hook is on when you get an itch.

NachtRitter 12-17-2013 03:19 PM

That's why I ended up with the patch!! My eye was itchy and .... POP!

Arragonis 12-17-2013 05:26 PM

arrr jim laaaaaad


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