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sqidd 09-03-2014 07:40 AM

Got A Focus, New To EcoModding
 
Howdy all. I just got a 2014 Focus with a 2.0L and a auto/manual to keep miles off of my Truck and Mustangs. I'm going to be all about the MPG with this bad boy. Looks like I have a lot of learning to do. Just getting started.

I have a long background in motorsports. 20yrs ago I was into the "Fox Body" race scene. Then I moved over to roadracing motorcycles for 10yrs. Ran as high as AMA Superbike. Now I'm back into fast cars and have started a business that specializes in suoerchargers and supercharger cooling systems. We design/develop everything in house.

I have a complete fabrication shop. CNC machines, welders, breaks, etc, etc, etc. There isn't much that I can't fabricate.

Any noob advice you can give me on the Focus?

I was filling out my "garage". Where do I find CD and frontal area numbers at? I didn't fill those boxes.

Well, anyway. Thought I would introduce myself.

Thanks a lot!
Jason

Daox 09-03-2014 08:34 AM

Welcome to the site Jason. Sounds like you'll fit right in here.

The easy things off the bat are to get instrumentation to help you tweak your driving style, air up the tires as much as you're comfortable with, and slap a grill block on it. Check out the 100+ hypermiling tips link up top and the 65+ mods list for more ideas.

sqidd 09-03-2014 12:32 PM

Thanks!

roosterk0031 09-03-2014 01:26 PM

One of those is on my short list for my next car, one of the few FFV smaller cars. Planning on running E85, there some places in Mich selling it for $2.19 what I've read from other owners you can still get to mid 30's on E85. Sadly Ann Arbor's prices aren't that good.

All the FFV I've owned lose about 20% mpg so I buy it when about that much cheaper yielding the same cost per mile.

E85 Prices Michigan

Maybe one of those cheap places is close to you.

sqidd 09-03-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by roosterk0031 (Post 443752)
One of those is on my short list for my next car, one of the few FFV smaller cars. Planning on running E85, there some places in Mich selling it for $2.19 what I've read from other owners you can still get to mid 30's on E85. Sadly Ann Arbor's prices aren't that good.

All the FFV I've owned lose about 20% mpg so I buy it when about that much cheaper yielding the same cost per mile.

E85 Prices Michigan

Maybe one of those cheap places is close to you.


Oh, I know all about e85! That's what I run in my race cars. Great stuff!

The FFV option is nice for when it is priced right. It would be a lot better if the factory got a lot more aggressive with the tune on e85 though. They leave a lot on the table. If it wasn't a lease car and I didn't want to screw with the warranty I would do a e85 tune for it and run it all the time.

roosterk0031 09-03-2014 02:52 PM

What did you ride in Superbike, watched it pretty regularly a few years back, when Nicky was riding a RC51, still like to get one of those.

sqidd 09-03-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by roosterk0031 (Post 443767)
What did you ride in Superbike, watched it pretty regularly a few years back, when Nicky was riding a RC51, still like to get one of those.

Nicki was in MotoGP by the time I ran SBK (I was already an old fart by then). I did race him in his pre Honda days at Putnum Park I think it was 1997? Maybe 1998? I beat him.:D He was only 15 or 16 then though I think (already been racing for 11-12yrs though).

I ran some AMA SBK stuff 2003-2005. It wasn't like I was hitting all the races, or even took it that seriously. Just ran the stuff that was fun and I knew the tracks real well. Mid Ohio, Road America, Road Atlanta, Barber. Running AMA SBK is just a way to spend a whole bunch of money and maybe get a top 15. I did mostly WERA/CCS stuff. At least there I could win some $$$ and maybe not be out of pocket for the entire weekend.:thumbup:

I rode pretty much everything at some point. Mostly GSXR1000's and Ducati's though.

mcrews 09-03-2014 04:20 PM

welcome!

Pump up the psi to 40 plus.
get a gauge (see first ling in my signature)

sqidd 09-03-2014 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mcrews (Post 443784)
welcome!

Pump up the psi to 40 plus.
get a gauge (see first ling in my signature)

I haven't even put gas in it yet, LOL! Saturday I have a 2.5hr round trip to run. I'm going to check the tires and do a quick once over before I leave.

I was looking at those scan gauges earlier. I'll order one up tomorrow. I'm a data dork! I love that stuff!

Thanks!:thumbup:

sqidd 09-03-2014 05:27 PM

Where are you guys getting the CD and frontal area numbers for your "garage" at?

mcrews 09-03-2014 05:35 PM

I was really addicted to my scangauge when I took trips....loved the instant feedback with multiple numbers.

user removed 09-03-2014 05:46 PM

Not sure about the CD and frontal area question but I drive a 2011 Fiesta and you can see my MPG average for that car under my handle (old mechanic) in this post. You can also look at myfuellog for the last 27 k miles. I coast in neutral quite a bit but mycar wastotalled and rebuilt before I bought it so there is no warranty to worry about and you probably should not coast in neutral because it may giveFord an excuse to deny a warranty claim.

Anticipation of forced stops is paramount to better mileage. Timing traffic lights and avoiding gridlock type traffic stiuations will help a lot.
Conservation of momentum is critical. People blow past me all the time when they just have to slam on their brakesat the next red light, while I pass them with out slowing down since I know when the light will change. I can go through 42 lights in 40 miles and only have to stop for anaverage of 6 of 42 lights. Stopping a then accelerating again destroys your mileage very quickly.
I try to keep my upshift points below 3k RPM and also try to avoid delaying upshifts if possible.

regards
Mech

spacemanspif 09-03-2014 05:52 PM

Cd and frontal area numbers are in the wiki link in the aerodynamics sticky. Unfortunately though there are no cd numbers for foci. I was looking the other day as I prepare to make a page for a 07 focus I just bought. You'll have to search the internet but I think I found all the info you are looking for on cars.com. It's burried in the specifications section I think.

Welcome aboard. Many here are car people with fast cars on the side. I like to think of MPG as another version of performance. So I have one car that I try to get every HP out of each drop of gas and the other car I try to get every mile from each drop.

sqidd 09-04-2014 11:37 AM

Well, I have some preliminary results. Not terribly scientific but here it goes.

I’m using the OEM mileage meter.

I’ve been running the A/C the entire time.

It’s the first tank of fuel in the car so it is not even close to broken in.

I’m on the cruise control pretty much all the time (anything over 35mph).

Mixed driving. Pretty much 50/50 spilt.

When I’m on the freeway I am not poking along. I cruise at 75mph.

And here is the best part…….I didn’t check the tire pressure until just now when I got back. It was at 34psi hot. I just bumped it up to 50psi which is the “max”.

38.2mpg average.

EPA combined is 31.

So as of right now I’m about 23% to the good. I’ll take that!

I took a look at the grill today. I figured out how to do a super sano stock looking block off out of Sintra that will bolt right on/off. I’ll have to do that in the next couple of weeks and see what that does for me.

I haven’t even looked under the car yet. I’m sure there are some goodies under there that are easy pickings.

And the tire pressure should help out quite a bit.

Now it’s time to get a scan gauge. I think 40+mpg is in my near future!

mcrews 09-04-2014 11:44 AM

:D your killin me!

JBarr 09-04-2014 01:25 PM

Welcome! I am far from an expert, but I think driving style is the easiest mod (and the only one I have employed so far). You can still drive the speed limit, put allow the speed to reduce on hills and go easy on the acceleration. There is no need to get to 75 mph immediately when entering the highway. A gauge will help you figure out what is killing your mileage and what boosts it. That will probably be my next mod.


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