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Old 07-06-2023, 12:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tesla pieces and parts

Ever since I saw that Elon Musk kept a Octovalve on his desk, I've been waiting for their household HVAC.

This is it so far -- a tutorial for technicians from Weber State University Davis:

There're individual pieces, heat exchangers and a VFD air compressor pump.

Active grille block with deletatble shrouding

The backside of the Octovalve, color-coded

Subway diagram of the various solenoids.

What sort of parts do all y'all find in this?

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Ever since I saw that Elon Musk kept a Octovalve on his desk, I've been waiting for their household HVAC.
What are you envisioning; like a single appliance that provides all heating and cooling needs, including climate control, drying cloths, refrigeration, hot water...?
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I don't recall all the claims in the Tesla rumors, it seems drinking water was part of it. A self-contained highly evolved unit would be an end goal.

I was thinking more of what can you do with a 400V VFD air compressor, a liquid-to-liquid heat exchanger, or a 3x24" active shutter with servo.

Stuff like that. It looks like a goldmine of aerospace quality OEM parts.
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I don't recall all the claims in the Tesla rumors, it seems drinking water was part of it. A self-contained highly evolved unit would be an end goal.

I was thinking more of what can you do with a 400V VFD air compressor, a liquid-to-liquid heat exchanger, or a 3x24" active shutter with servo.

Stuff like that. It looks like a goldmine of aerospace quality OEM parts.
Well, your comment sent me into my own tangent thoughts of a highly efficient single appliance. The octovalve was created to centralize the heat moving device by switching the heat-moving capacity to where it was needed.

Why have dozens of inefficient heating and cooling appliances in a home when you could have a highly efficient central unit that could be switched to send what was needed, to where it was needed?

Another example I always think about is why do we build bigger TVs? If you want a bigger picture, sit closer (sayz the guy that built a 152" projection screen). The logical conclusion of this is to have the picture projected directly into your eyeball to have a full field of view. Even more efficient is to activate the neurons responsible for perceiving that picture directly with electricity.

I'm thinking about those sorts of things all the time; like why do I have my own personal garbage can. The garbage truck empties my can, then drives 50ft down the road to pick up another can, then another 50ft... it should be like 1 "can" for the 100 houses.

Why do 100 houses need 100 lawnmowers for the 100 tiny lawns?

I know I'm talking about communism here, but 100 is a reasonable size for communes. Any more than that, and the probability of getting a freebeard, or an aerohead, or an oilpan4, or a redpoint5 becomes unacceptably high
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Drinking water on a colder surface is easy, even in a desert. Would people accept it, history says no. My allergy doctor would have hissie fits.

Neighbor has 2 100 gallon trashcans that he fills to the brim every week, I use a 40 gallon every other pickup and have the yellow extra stickers back from 2013. Ain't paying for his hubris, so that's why the trash truck stops average every 100ft in my hood.

freebeard prolly has a communal dumpster, :O. How well does that work?
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Neighbor has 2 100 gallon trashcans that he fills to the brim every week, I use a 40 gallon every other pickup and have the yellow extra stickers back from 2013. Ain't paying for his hubris, so that's why the trash truck stops average every 100ft in my hood.

freebeard prolly has a communal dumpster, :O. How well does that work?
When I was initially living alone, I didn't have trash service because I generated so little. Just toss what little I had in with my parents when I visited. My first roommate was a Chinese student, and she generated enough to fill the can every week. Didn't realize a poor student could buy so much stuff.

The apartment complex I was at had a trash compactor, and that worked quite well.

Anyhow, the point being that even with someone generating 10x more garbage, it would be cheaper for everyone to have a single bin that gets collected.

Then there's the fact that garbage trucks spill quite a lot of trash picking up the hundreds of cans. Practically every pickup has some trash falling out.
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That's the way it is here. You can have your own garbage can but no-one is going to empty it. The dumpster is by the manager's office.

Last time I used it it was completely full, with a beige CRT monitor like a cherry on top.

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It's a corporate dumpster.

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