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moTthediesel 11-05-2009 01:31 AM

hello from NNY (Porsche 356 diesel conversion)
 
I just found this site and I'm loving it!

I have built a turbo diesel powered Porsche 356 that I run on bio diesel. I ran it this Summer but I still have some changes to make so it's back into my "Little Shop of Horrors" for the winter.

I'll be mostly in lurk-mode for awhile, there's plenty of good info here already :thumbup:

Christ 11-05-2009 02:09 AM

Welcome to EM! Always nice to see a few more Nor-Easter's around here.

Daox 11-05-2009 07:18 AM

Very nice. What engine are you using? What kind of mileage are you getting?

moTthediesel 11-05-2009 08:13 AM

The engine is a 1.6 TD from a Quantum. It has a modded injection pump, a VNT15 turbo from an A4 TDI and a Porsche 944 turbo intercooler.

My highway mileage now is about 45 to 50, but my gearing is all wrong, way too low for this engine. I'm planning on installing a type 1 VW box with a higher R&P and custom gear ratios to knock down my cruising RPMs.

I found this site while looking for a Cd number for my car ('65 SC coupe), still haven't found it -- Let me know if anybody has a link!

srortega 11-05-2009 01:04 PM

Wecome to the group. It may be worth looking into a 914 tranny to get the 5th gear. I had a friend who put one into a Karmin Ghia. He did it so he could get up to 150MPH in 5th when racing, but it would be good at normal highway speeds. He used the nose cone off a 912 as the 914 tranny is normally in the rear of the car.

moTthediesel 11-05-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by srortega (Post 137935)
Wecome to the group. It may be worth looking into a 914 tranny to get the 5th gear. I had a friend who put one into a Karmin Ghia. He did it so he could get up to 150MPH in 5th when racing, but it would be good at normal highway speeds. He used the nose cone off a 912 as the 914 tranny is normally in the rear of the car.

I would guess that your friends' Ghia was a later IRS car -- then that's not too hard to do. My car is a swing axle machine and you can't use swing axles on an IRS tranny. These cars can be converted to IRS of course, but that's a huge job and I just don't want to go there.

srortega 11-05-2009 04:17 PM

I completely forgot about the transaxles changing from swing to IRS in 69. It sure would be a lot more difficult to make that conversion. I was just thinking how nice it would be to add a 5th gear for on the highway. Do you have any pictures of the diesel engine in the car, or any pics of the conversion? I love the idea of putting a diesel in, especially for the BD.

moTthediesel 11-05-2009 05:20 PM

OK, let's see if I can post some images here --

The car --

[IMG]http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/u...l/P7230018.jpg[/IMG]

The engine --

[IMG]http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/u...inebay0016.jpg[/IMG]

I used an adapter from Kennedy Engineering, putting the engine in is actually pretty easy, but then the REAL fun begins :rolleyes:

srortega 11-06-2009 02:10 PM

The engine looks stock! Nice work. The only part that looks like a tight fit is the pipes on the left. Did you have to make any modifications to make them fit.

Christ 11-06-2009 05:28 PM

That charge piping looks a little cramped in there!

Oh, my, what a beautiful ride that is.

moTthediesel 11-07-2009 08:41 AM

Thanks! Yeah, the plumbing was a challenge, but the most trouble I had was with cooling. That rear radiator with ducted scoop from under the car just didn't work out. Now I'm fitting dual motorcycle rads behind the headlights, hope that gets it done!

pgfpro 11-07-2009 11:30 AM

Nice install and what a nice ride!!!:thumbup:

Welcome to the site!!!

MetroMPG 02-10-2010 10:22 AM

What a cool car, moTthediesel!

Did you ever find the Cd? I'm guessing it's not that slippery, judging by the shape at the rear.

Where are you in NY? Sounds like we're in the same neighbourhood. I'm at the extreme east end of the Islands - Brockville ON.

moTthediesel 02-10-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 160381)
What a cool car, moTthediesel!

thanks!

Quote:

Did you ever find the Cd? I'm guessing it's not that slippery, judging by the shape at the rear.
I did find a number on a German site, .39 -- not great, but it has a pretty small frontal area as it's a tiny car, and it's light. I got between 45 and 50 mpg with it last year running 100% bio. I've replaced the trans now with a custom VW unit with much taller cogs, so I'm hoping for better numbers this year. Still want to do some aero mods, air dam, front pan tray, and eventually four wheel skirts, like this --

http://www.cartype.com/pics/427/full...6_coupe_51.jpg

But we've got to get it fully sorted first --

Quote:

Where are you in NY? Sounds like we're in the same neighbourhood. I'm at the extreme east end of the Islands - Brockville ON.
Yeah, I know Brockville well -- Dave Jones Sports, New York Cafe, and a great little military surplus store too! I live on the river at Kring Point, so I'm a little southwest of you, right across from Ironside Island if you know where that is.

MetroMPG 02-10-2010 11:52 AM

Do you have a web page about your car somewhere?

I know Ironside - went swimming off my friend's schooner just south of Grenadier central there last summer. I usually boat past it a few times each year. Oh - I see you're on Goose Bay. I've always been intrigued by the little "gap" into that bay. Never have gone in it though.

foolthrottle 11-26-2011 12:10 PM

Are there any more photos of your build? looks really good.

UFO 11-28-2011 11:46 AM

What a jewel! Thanks for posting.

brucepick 11-28-2011 09:11 PM

Didn't you run the diesel Porsche in the Green Grand Prix in 2010 and 2011?
Great project and execution!

G2TDI 12-18-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 160402)
Do you have a web page about your car somewhere?

I too was interested so I did some quick Google searches and came up with:

Pictures by motthediesel - Photobucket

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2145693/1965-porsche-356

Love this project, though personally I would've started with a replica both for weight and value purposes :) and a 1.9TDI engine as they can outperform the older 1.6TD in every way including fuel mileage, still VERY interesting. In fact too interesting now I'm tempted to find a 356 coupe replica and drop my TDI engine into that! :)

G2TDI 01-08-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moTthediesel (Post 160399)
thanks!

I did find a number on a German site, .39 -- not great, but it has a pretty small frontal area as it's a tiny car, and it's light. I got between 45 and 50 mpg with it last year running 100% bio. I've replaced the trans now with a custom VW unit with much taller cogs, so I'm hoping for better numbers this year. Still want to do some aero mods, air dam, front pan tray, and eventually four wheel skirts, like this --

I just ran across this info
Groe Cw-Werte-Sammlung von Autos und ... zum Mitmachen

I thought the 0.39 didn't sound right and frankly those Cd values don't mean much but the CdA values (in the link they are labeled as cw and cw*F)

"Porsche 356/2 Gmünd Coupé u. Cabrio 1948-1950 0,29 1,62 0,469"

Cd: 0.29
Front Area: 1.62
CdA: 0.469

diverdan 09-08-2012 04:58 PM

Very cool. What's your impression of the performance and noise? I had a 356 years ago with an old vw engine that would do 45-50mpg on the highway with the original 356 tranny, but it was pretty slow.

I'm looking for ideas for a hot diesel powered sports car that will deliver great economy too.

Dan

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 10-12-2012 03:56 AM

That's a nice project. I've already considered to get a 356 replica to adapt a 3-banger Euro-spec 1.4TDI for the track days...

G2TDI 10-13-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 333550)
That's a nice project. I've already considered to get a 356 replica to adapt a 3-banger Euro-spec 1.4TDI for the track days...

Coupe or cabrio?

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 10-13-2012 08:36 PM

Coupe is my favorite for many reasons, but in Brazil it's easier to find the roadsters.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-grJK_no-Ld.../Photo0623.jpg

bigsexyTDI 10-18-2012 03:57 PM

This is so cool... love it man.


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