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bennelson 04-14-2008 06:39 PM

HELP! S10 hazard button broken!
 
Hey everyone.

I have my '95 S10 pickup truck loaded up for work tommorow and the hazard button is broken!

The hazard lights won't TURN OFF! This is bad news because it will eventually wear the battery down, I don't have turn signals, and I look like an idiot driving!

Does anyone know how to fix this?!?!?

I checked the fuse box. The fuse that would disconnect the hazard light also would disable the BRAKE LIGHT, so that' not an option.

MetroMPG 04-14-2008 08:36 PM

Sounds like good advice, Frank. That way at least you'll still have brake lights.

RH77 04-14-2008 09:15 PM

What about the relay "Clicker"? Usually there's a turn-signal device under the dash that makes the clicking noise and often relays or times the blinking duration and frequency.

Have you tried pulling this? Instead of the fuse, it may just get rid of turn signals and keep the brakes.

Some models (older Civics for sure) have a relay/clicker for the 4-way flashers and one for the turn signals. Not sure if GM used this -- it could allow the use of signals if the redundancy was built-in...

Just an idea. Good luck getting that fixed...

RH77

metroschultz 04-15-2008 12:55 AM

get a screw
 
The hazard button on your S10 is held on by a small screw.
Probly just the screw came loose and you can replace it.
If you lost the whole button assembly,
Button, spring, base, screw
They sell it at your local dealer for cheap.
or you can just put a small screw in the plastic pull tab and use it that way.
S.

Red 04-15-2008 01:04 AM

Not sure how your flasher button works, but you cant stick a screw driver down the hole and just manually switch it off?

RH77 04-15-2008 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Lee (Post 19637)
That would be the flasher.

So that's what they call it :p

I just remember having an "interesting" time with LED turn signals and the "Flasher" in the past.

Great idea, glad I thought of it :D

bennelson 04-17-2008 10:35 AM

http://web.mac.com/benhdvideoguy/iWe...s/DSC06020.jpg


The entire hazard button popped off, flew away and got lost.

Looking down into the hole, I could see bits of metal and plastic.

I was able to use a screwdriver to hold the button down. This turned the flashers off. Unfortunately, I no longer have turn signals, but that would have been gone anyways if I pulled the flashers.

It looks like to replace the flasher button, you have to remove the airbag and steering wheel! yipes! What a pain!

I am going camping next weekend using the pickup to pull a teardrop camping trailer and probably have the electric motorcycle in the bed too. It's only the 2.2L engine, so I will have to do a test drive with that setup to make sure everything works ok before leaving town.

Gotta have those turn signals for pulling a trailer!

MetroMPG 04-18-2008 08:27 AM

That's an awesome picture. :)

You sure you can't unscrew that plastic cover without removing the steering wheel? I'm sure you are, but I'm surprised. Every car I've owned that I needed to get in there, I could access with a number of screws on the bottom side, and the piece came apart in an upper & lower half.

bennelson 04-18-2008 09:03 AM

I will double-check, but the cover that goes around the hazard button also goes around the ignition.

Sure would make it easy to hot wire if you only had to pull out a couple of screws!

metroschultz 04-18-2008 09:20 AM

OK, I was incorrect,
I believed you had the old style S10 T/S set up
You have the new style,
very easy to fix
those covers come off from the steering column
no need to pull the wheel
there are small holes in the bottom
look inside and see the screws that hold it all together
you may have regular #2 Phillips or they might be Torx heads
take out all the screws, remember where they went, some are for the cover halves and some are for retention to the column
one half will fall away easily
the other half will hang on the Ignition switch
just push that half over to that side
then you need to have a set of "Secure Torx"
the turn signal switch is held on with those.
get another switch either used or new( they are not real expensive)
and replace.
TaDa
have fun.
S.

bennelson 04-18-2008 09:27 AM

Thanks Schultz.

I do have a manual for the truck.

They do have instructions in there for replacing the turn signal, but I didn't see anything about the hazard.

If that was all just one single unit, that would make sense as the how the turn signals have been behaving.

I did see the holes underneith the steering wheel, but they are very deep and narrow - I couldn't get my eyes and a flashlight staring in there at the same time.

This should make it much easier! Thanks! :thumbup:

bennelson 05-05-2008 02:13 PM

Grrr - Rant!
 
GRRRRRRR!

Stupid hazard button.

Had to take off the entire steering wheel (rented a steering wheel puller) and then pull off the bottom dashboard (kneeboard?) and STILL can't get at the end of the stupid turn signal switch wire harness!!!!

I am begining to enjoy the simplicity of my motorcycle more and more.

The turn signal switch at the dealership was $300, it's $150 at the auto parts store, and $75 at the junk yard.

The junkyard is pulling one off a truck for me right now.

I would say to heck with this, but $75 for the darn part is still a lot cheaper than somebody hitting me at an intersection not knowing I was turning, or a traffic ticket for failure to use directional signals.

bennelson 05-05-2008 02:25 PM

http://web.mac.com/benhdvideoguy/iWe...s/DSC06162.jpg
Airbag removal - not for the timid

http://web.mac.com/benhdvideoguy/iWe...s/DSC06163.jpg
Steering wheel pulled

http://web.mac.com/benhdvideoguy/iWe...s/DSC06164.jpg
How much crap do I have to take off to get to the turn signal switch!?!!?!?!?


Anyways, since I have everything torn up anyways, the upside is this:
I have access to all the ignition wires. Wouldn't now be a good time to install a kill switch?

Which wire do you suppose I should interrupt to kill the engine? Red? Yellow? Something else?
http://web.mac.com/benhdvideoguy/iWe...s/DSC06166.jpg
http://web.mac.com/benhdvideoguy/iWe...s/DSC06167.jpg
This photo is looking straight up from below the ingnition (black thing on the right.) It seems to offer the best view of the wires.

bennelson 05-06-2008 09:18 PM

Finally Fixed!!!
 
This has been a real GRRR project. But it is finally fixed.

I went and got a replacement turn switch at a salvage yard. Got it home before I realized the connectors were right, but which color went where was wrong.

Tried it anyways. Squirters go when your turn the wipers on, and don't stop...
Had to return that one, then wait to see if they had a different correct one. Nope, they didn't...thanks for making me drive out there.....again.

Went to another salvage yard. They wouldn't sell me a turn switch, but would sell an entire steering column. This one was from an automatic with the gear selector on the column and cruise control. The wire harness connectors are right, and the colors of the wires are in the right order too.

Took apart the column, pulled the turn signal, installed it in the truck, reinstalled my steering wheel, reinstalled my airbag.

Dear God! It works!

For the first time since I bought the truck (back in January) I have a working radio, working turn signals, and legal plates all at the same time!!!

In the end, I paid the same amount for the steering column (and an electric lawn mower I found at the salvage yard!) as I would have for just a new turn signal switch ordered in at the auto parts store.

Who knew the hazard button was the most complicated thing in the steering column!?!!??

If anyone needs a steering column, tilt steering wheel, airbag, or ingnition and key for a Chevy S10 - let me know! I have them!


http://web.mac.com/benhdvideoguy/iWe...s/DSC06184.jpg
Same price as just the cost of the blinker switch

http://web.mac.com/benhdvideoguy/iWe...s/DSC06188.jpg
New Switch installed. Note that it has cruise control on it. Does this give my truck cruise control? No. It does not.


I think it was less work to remove the Geo Metro engine than it was to replace the switch on this thing.

metroschultz 05-08-2008 06:49 AM

Sorry this turned inta such a grrrrrrr project
Glad you have it fixed though.
Call the local body shops to see if anybody wants that air bag, they are worth there weight in gold around here.
Maybe sell it on E-Bay?
find out what it is worth from the dealer first so you know what to ask.
S.

bennelson 05-08-2008 09:24 AM

Yeah, that airbag has gotta be worth something.

Not sure about SHIPPING it though. They might arrest me as a terrorist. Those things are basically bombs.

I was a little nervous removing and installing it.

lovemysan 05-08-2008 11:04 AM

You did yourself a favor using the junkyard part. The aftermarket switches are garbage. Usually there is a 90 day(max) replacement warranty only. My sunfire went through about 4 switches before it got totalled. The headlights would go out and you could jiggle it to make them work. After wasting $70 at autozone, I got one used that was nearly worn out for $30, it lasted longer than the autozone part. After that I went to the pick and pull and got 2 for $20 each. It sounds like the sunfire switch was easier to replace.

lovemysan 05-08-2008 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennelson (Post 24220)
Yeah, that airbag has gotta be worth something.

Not sure about SHIPPING it though. They might arrest me as a terrorist. Those things are basically bombs.

I was a little nervous removing and installing it.

Its a lousy bomb though. Try craigslist.


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