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MetroMPG 07-19-2008 09:26 PM

HybridFest update
 
Greetings from Madison, WI!

Ben (SVOboy) picked me up at the in the company car at the Milwaukee airport and I got my first ride in a lowered, lean-burned, MPGuino-equipped (thank you, dcb!) vehicle.

Conclusion: lean burn is awesome fuel economy for the lazy. Holy cow - do nothing more than take it easy on the gas, avoid the dropping-out-of-lean-burn-stumble and be richly rewarded. Or less penalized. Depending on how you look at it. How about 68 mpg on the airport trip at around 60 mph.

The CRX, and later Ben Nelson's electric motorcycle and a bunch of signs and a couple of laptop slide shows made up the EM display. People liked the CRX ("68 mpg @ 60 mph signs taped to the windows), and loved the e-motorbike.

Met a bunch of people from the forums (quite a few CMPG hybrid owners in attendance) including EM members Arminius, bestmapman, Daox, bennelson (of course) and semi-lurker krousdb. Sorry if I forget anybody else. My brain was a bit fried by the end of the day.

Also got to check out krousdb's Prius (thanks for the HSD driving clinic), Daox's Paseo and bennelson's S-10.

We'll be there again tomorrow if anybody's in the neighbourhood (Alliant Energy Centre.

Madison's nice, but I'm looking forward to getting back to Ottawa and driving that Kammback down the highway to gather more butt-o-meter readings on how well it seemed to work...

And I'll get and post a bunch of pics tomorrow. Some interesting vehicles here.

bennelson 07-19-2008 10:02 PM

Video update
 
Hey everyone, having fun at Hybridfest!

YouTube - Hybridfest Update

SVOboy 07-20-2008 12:31 AM

UPDATE: Both darin and ben are asleep, and I'm eating vegan ice cream.

Arminius 07-20-2008 01:09 AM

Yeah, it was great to meet everyone that was there. I didn't expect to meet Doax, so that was an unexpected treat. Darin and I were talking about drilling holes in Ben's car for a boat tail just before I left. I wouldn't turn my back on him with my car around if I were you, Ben.

(Thanks for the $100 free gas card and the case of free beer you gave everyone who showed up. I don't drink, but I'll give it to my wife and kids.)

justpassntime 07-20-2008 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy (Post 45685)
UPDATE: Both darin and ben are asleep, and I'm eating vegan ice cream.

What is that? You know cows eat vegetables, so by proxy you are eating processed vegetables even if it comes from a cow. Works the same for poultry and pigs too. :D

I wasn't there, did anyone miss me?

Didn't think so.

SVOboy 07-20-2008 01:26 AM

It;s soy based. And I definitely don't trust darin...I could kill him in his sleep right now though, MWAHAHA

Daox 07-20-2008 08:35 AM

I'm kinda glad I went home...

bennelson 07-20-2008 09:07 AM

Update to SVOboys update
 
Well, Darin and I are now awake and the other Ben is sleeping on the floor.

Vegan ice cream cartons litter the room!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arminius (Post 45700)

(Thanks for the $100 free gas card and the case of free beer you gave everyone who showed up. I don't drink, but I'll give it to my wife and kids.)

They guys say "you're welcome!" Your reward for coming out and helping promote the site and the event!

-Ben N.

TomO 07-20-2008 11:14 AM

I'm frustrated that the wife had to work this weekend and I couldn't make it. I'm only 6 hours away too, sad me. :(

dcb 07-20-2008 11:50 AM

That's really cool to put a booth together :) How was the turnout? You guys should get in a paintball game with the cleanmpg folks or something :)

Arminius 07-20-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcb (Post 45777)
That's really cool to put a booth together :) How was the turnout? You guys should get in a paintball game with the cleanmpg folks or something :)


Ecomodding is the the only thing that excites me, other than alternative energy. I just walked past all the hypermiling guys. The propane car and the natural gas cars were cool. There was a Prius every two feet. Where were the Civic and Escape hybrids (or even a GM, for that matter)? Hmmmm. There was even a Smart Car there.

Ben Nelson should have been selling electric motorcycles. He would have made a fortune. I bet there are at least 10-20 other people that took his ideas home and are starting their own.

I got to sit in SVOboy's car and pretend I was driving an efficient car. I quitely made motor noises when no one was around.

SVOboy 07-21-2008 04:45 PM

Did anyone actually take a picture of the booth? I forgot to. :(

ericbecky 07-21-2008 05:59 PM

We have one, but I probably won't get to uploading it until late Sunday at the earliest.

EDIT: You can check through Evan Fusco's Hybridfest pics on Flickr.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/efusco/...7606284179380/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/...ae5cbc.jpg?v=0

Found one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/efusco/...7606284179380/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/...d7d99a.jpg?v=0

bennelson 07-21-2008 06:14 PM

Photos!
 
Here are a couple photos I took!

http://gallery.me.com/benhdvideoguy/...12166780300001
Matching electric motorcycles!



http://gallery.me.com/benhdvideoguy/...C06406/web.jpg
Held Hostage by Big Oil!



http://gallery.me.com/benhdvideoguy/...12166780380001
Carpooling in my S10 Pickup - 3 grown men (physically at least), all of our gear, and SVOboy's carbon-fiber bike!

Did I mention it's a COMPACT pickup!?
Ask Darin where the stickshift is.

Schwaebz 07-21-2008 06:14 PM

lol, playin wiht fire


what is vegan ice cream anyways?

bennelson 07-21-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonbaby (Post 46132)
Those don't match at ALL!

Aw, come on!

They are both yellow! And both electric!

It was actually pretty funny. A guy just rode over on his little electric cycle and parked it right next to mine. I had to at least get a photo!

Said he uses it all the time to get around, inside hotels and conference centers!

Schwaebz 07-21-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennelson (Post 46141)
Aw, come on!

They are both yellow! And both electric!

It was actually pretty funny. A guy just rode over on his little electric cycle and parked it right next to mine. I had to at least get a photo!

Said he uses it all the time to get around, inside hotels and conference centers!

wouldnt a person get kick out for driving inside?

MetroMPG 07-26-2008 10:23 PM

More pics...
 
Sorry, my camera bites. (It's not MY fault.) About half my pics didn't turn out.

I just snapped shots of the ecomodding related displays:


http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1217124641

Another pic of the EM booth, with Ben explaining to the curious exactly how it is that he can get 68 mpg at 60 mph.


http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1217124641

To me, the University of Wisconsin vehicles made up the most interesting display (and people) at the event. Going to school for modding!

Ben & I had a good chat with one of the engineering students who worked on this project: a through the road parallel hybrid conversion - rear wheels driven electrically; front wheels driven by a biodiesel with a 6 speed manual transmission.

I asked the student if any of the team members had ecomodded their own cars. Nope! That was a bit of a surprise.

Anyway, the guy said that everybody who worked on the project would likely receive a job offer from GM. He was trying to decide if he wanted to go that route, given hole the company has dug itself into of late.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1217124641

More of the UW vehicles.


http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1217124221

A biofuel co-op showed this b-100 capable Merc.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1217124221

Hymotion put on a dynamic display: they installed their 5 kWh plug-in Prius conversion module as a demonstration project.

MetroMPG 07-26-2008 10:27 PM

1 Attachment(s)
http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1217125462

PHEV's were everywhere. You couldn't throw lithium ion cell without hitting one, it seemed!

Along the lines of the Hymotion demo, I think Ben should have saved his VX engine swap for the event. Two demo's daily!

Arminius 07-27-2008 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 47963)
To me, the University of Wisconsin vehicles made up the most interesting display (and people) at the event. Going to school for modding!

What was your general impression of the visitors to the boots? Mine was that the senior citizens were disproportionately represented. I would have been really excited to see more people in their 20's and 30's than 50's and 60's.

BrianAbington 08-08-2008 10:02 AM

any idea what the average turn out was for spectators?

ericbecky 08-08-2008 10:26 AM

Overall it is more like 30's and 40's.

Same with the drivers that make the trek

BrianAbington 08-08-2008 01:42 PM

sorry should have been more clear...I meant total number of people who came to the event.

ericbecky 08-08-2008 01:47 PM

Attendance for Hybridfest was 11,000 attendees and spectators this year.


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