i-dtec (Honda Diesel)
Honda unveiled that the "i-DTEC" Diesel engine will appear in an unnamed Acura model in 2009.
So, it looks for those who were hoping for an Accord Diesel may have to spend a few extra coins for a TSX (which the engine has been convenient placed in-tandem for photo shoots). Hints and rumors confirm. ABG. Emissions = Tier II / BIN 5 (Euro-6) Strict Diesel emission standards. The i-DTEC is a awash with technology and the latest in non-urea exhaust treatment. Based on the the current 2.2L Euro Accord with the i-CTDi, FE (converted) is... 33 - City 50 - Highway 42 - Combined (based on the WhatCar? Online Report). Will Acura customers embrace Diesel tech and efficiency? RH77 |
I WANT I WANT I WANT! :eek:
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What the heck does dtec stand for though?
And isn't the tsx just a rebadged euro accord anyway, ;) |
duh, diesel-tec. it does sound pretty doofy. it should stand for doofy-tec.
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Diesel Timing and Electronic Lift Control? It doesn't make sense to me, :)
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copied from autoblog green:
The all-new i-DTEC is the 2nd diesel engine Honda has developed. By further improving the current award winning i-CTDi's superb performance, fuel economy and emission efficiencies, i-DTEC has achieved various stringent emission standards in the U.S., Japan and Europe (Honda test data). we still dunno what it stands for though. :rolleyes: |
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I want a diesel insight, and I want it now! Oh, can I have one?
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intelligent VD-TEC
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I was really hoping that it would be an option for the Accord or lesser Hondas -- but this hope has been based on 2006 hopes. The new Accord has plumped up big-time. I'm a bit disturbed with predictions that it would be Acura-only. Why should FE come at a price? Seems counter-intuitive. But yes, the Euro-Accord = U.S. TSX. Too bad we don't get the Wagon variant here. I would trade our '06 on one -- especially outfitted with an efficient Diesel. Nevertheless, whatever they call it, the new Diesel should add another option to folks looking for FE. Hopefully the TSX won't grow in size like everything else. Released photos show that this model will become larger as well. Hopefully Diesel fuel prices remain stable, and that cold-Weather issues are controlled. RH77 |
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diesels are already more expensive, add luxury car to the equation. |
There is a big premium associated with a diesel engine in the manufacturing process to start with. It only makes sense from a marketing point of view to try dillute this premium in the price of an upscale car.
I've only owned vw diesels for the last 11 years (since I was 16 basically), but I can't wait to see what other manufacturers will have to offer within the next 2 years. |
The good news is, is that now that Honda DOES have a diesel coming to the US. Someone is bound to figure out how to swap one of these into an Accord. You guys said it yourselves. It's just a Euro spec accord and that means, in theory at least, it should fit into the Accord and possibly even a Civic.
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I wonder how long it would take befor someone puts one in an Insight body... I suspect it would be a tight fit tho.
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That would be dreamy, I would totally give up the hybrid technology for a diesel engine, but yeah probably half the displacement of this one.
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A Canadian market smart diesel into an Insight would be more likely.
What I'm hoping is that the new TSX is as slick as the outgoing one. The outgoing model had one of the lower Cd's in the mass production fleet. .27, if I'm not mistaken. Quote:
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Yeah it's sort of like the 30mpg mark. When something is already "great", why make it better, or at least why feel the need to differentiate beyond that level of ordinary greatness.
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Budomove: exactly - the "good enough" mindset. But it's not good enough for me.
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That's why we're all here, and people ARE waking up...aaaaalllllllllbbbbbbbbeeeeeiiiiiiiiiitttttttt vvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeerrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy sssssssssssslllllllllllooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwlllll llllllyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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It is amazing how all us oldtimers from G-S have flocked here, and there are literally none of the G-S veterans still over there.
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Low Cd
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Aside from the sheetmetal and overall design, it has a partial undertray and other aero items: spats, etc. When comparing it to the Integra (0.33 Cd), it seems to hold highway speeds with less throttle input, come to think of it. I just thought it was the throttle-by-wire being more efficient about it. Too bad it has a huge 4 in it. BUT, better than the trend of having a 6-cylinder in this segment. They certainly had better not do that with the '09. RH77 |
Well, you responded to that point and made me nervous, so I went out to double check my memory... and I wasn't making things up!
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