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Lethedethius 12-22-2011 03:25 AM

Just a thought of using force fields for aerodynamics...
 
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Imagine driving your stock 72 chevelle with no mods to the exterior but a force shield cutting the wind... oh bliss....

Frank Lee 12-22-2011 03:37 AM

The Tempo has one of those and it's the ****!

jakobnev 12-22-2011 04:25 AM

Now you just have to solve the problem of making wind behave like incoming missiles!

muffildy 12-22-2011 05:59 PM

energy
 
the energy required to maintain any sort of force field would no doubt be far greater than the amount saved from being more aerodynamic.
also, someone commented on that thread that its not a force field, but a point defence system.

Ryland 12-22-2011 07:28 PM

Right, it doesn't stop anything, it instead detonates explosive projectiles before they hit the vehicle, toss a rock at the vehicle and it will hit it, shoot a bullet and it will hit it as well, even depleted uranium (so much harder then steel plating that when it hits it, it melts the steel) would be unaffected, but fire or toss a bomb and it will blow up before hitting the vehicle.

ConnClark 12-26-2011 03:04 PM

There is a sort of force field that can be used to reduce drag. Its called Electrostatic Drag Reduction. You ionize the air and repel it away with a like charge from the vehicle skin.

womprat 12-30-2011 06:58 AM

I imagine energy consumption would be crazy.

dcb 12-30-2011 08:54 AM

the energy consumption should be proportional to the amount of air diverted. The vehicle skin charge should not need a lot of current to maintain, but as new air hits the vehicle it will need to be ionized for maximum force (plus some drag for the ionizing interface). Not sure if/how to make a win out of it but it is an interesting idea, some links would help.

Of practical concern, you don't want sparky sparky while refueling at the gas pump.

gasstingy 12-30-2011 09:36 AM

A side benefit to having a functional EDR system on your car would be the anti-theft protection, not to mention the value of keeping stray dogs from urinating on your custom aero hubcaps. :eek:

Piwoslaw 12-30-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lethedethius (Post 275750)
Imagine driving your stock 72 chevelle with no mods to the exterior but a force shield cutting the wind... oh bliss....

You might lower the Cd, but the frontal area would still spoil the CdA.

womprat 12-30-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcb (Post 276905)
the energy consumption should be proportional to the amount of air diverted. The vehicle skin charge should not need a lot of current to maintain, but as new air hits the vehicle it will need to be ionized for maximum force (plus some drag for the ionizing interface). Not sure if/how to make a win out of it but it is an interesting idea, some links would help.

Of practical concern, you don't want sparky sparky while refueling at the gas pump.

I imagine wiring up a few high-voltage transformers and having exposed electrodes on the front of the car wouldn't be too pedesterian friendly.

I'm not sure electrostatic manipulation of the boundary layer is much benefit - skin friction isn't much of an issue for an ecomodder. But to something that flies high, fast and has massive skin friction to deal with, I can see why this kind of thing was studied.

It's straight forward enough to create a bit of an ion wind between electrodes, there's youtube vids of people making hovering alumium foil craft and bladeless fans. Sometimes done with hacked up neon sign transformers.

So the trick would be using this to manipulate airflow round an object. Cleaving the air in front, preventing or disrupting vortexes, keeping it attached across a surface it might otherwise not have remained attached to.

As a bonus, if you forget to turn it off, and some kid tries to key your car... ZAP


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