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bennelson 11-23-2012 11:04 PM

Kristin's Hymotion Prius
 
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Hey Folks,

We've had this car the better part of a year now, but I don't think I've bothered to start an official thread on it yet!

This spring, we bought a 2004 Toyota Prius, with 48,000 miles on it, and a Hymotion brand plug-in kit already installed! It also came with a ScanGuage, lowered sports springs, and a set of snow tires.

This was to replace my wife's (Kristin's) old Pontiac Sunfire to be her car and "the family car" as we have a little girl now, and neither my pickup truck or Electro-Metro are well designed for 3 people (and a child seat!)

Other than the Hymotion kit (which is pretty darn cool!) I haven't really messed with the Prius yet. I did get a block heater installed when we had the oil changed, but that's it.

Today, we did some actual eco-modding. Daox (Tim) came over and we worked on both his car and Kristin's.

On the Hymotion Prius, we put in an EV switch. I got one that came with the car, but never had been installed. It's really a little circuit board that you hack into the wire-harness. Once done, pulling and holding the cruise control stick activates "EV ONLY" mode.

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It wasn't too hard to install. Mostly, it was removing the glove box and several pieces of trim around it, and pulling out a wire harness plug. Two wires get crimped-on, and a third is added directly into the plug. That third wire was a bit tricky, as the directions weren't super-clear as to the orientation, and I ended up breaking off the pin inside the plug. It took some work to pull back out, crimp a new pin, and put it all back together.

After testing the EV switch, it was just a matter of putting back the trim and glove box.

The EV switch didn't do anything at first. Apparently, it was cold enough out that the battery temperature prevents the car from going into EV mode. We did a test drive to warm the pack (the car had been sitting in the cold overnight before that) and then it went right into EV mode after that.

Seems like the EV mode has limited use, but later, when I had to just move the car so that Tim could pull his into the garage, I was able to do it without turning the engine on, something I couldn't do before, even WITH the Hymotion pack.

Tim and I also worked on a lower grill block, made from wood blocking and black coroplast. It completely covers the lower grill. We also used zip-ties on the far ends to pin down the corners, as that part stuck out beyond where the wood attachment points were.

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I had a fair amount of various diameters of foam pipe insulation. After a few minutes of trying a few different things, we found that slicing it in half the long way, then FOLDING it in half, it would tuck in to the upper grill with a nice look, and would stay securely without zip ties or other fasteners.

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It looked fine on the red car, but really blended in nicely with the gray car.

Tomorrow, I'll get some black paint and make those fender washers match the coroplast.

MetroMPG 11-24-2012 08:49 AM

Subscribed.

Envious of the nerd car posse.

Weather Spotter 11-24-2012 09:15 AM

looks good. I would try to find some paint to match the car for that grill block. black looks ok but blending it in would make it look like it came that way.

bennelson 11-24-2012 09:20 AM

It would be nice to have the lower grill block match. The car is basically red with black trim, and the existing lower grill was black, but yes, a red grill block would be good.

I wonder if I could get contact paper or something similar in a color that was close.

I still haven't tested whether or not spray paint melts coroplast or not!

CigaR007 11-24-2012 09:41 AM

Your Prius seems to be Salsa Red Pearl, colour code 3Q3. When it was time to paint my grille blocks, I went to my local carquest store and had them mix a spray can of paint of the colour code I wanted.

Don't know about painting over coroplast. The paint might crack and flake over time on that type of surface.

Weather Spotter 11-24-2012 09:57 AM

get kylorn plastic paint. I had a grill bock with (black) paint and it was fine after 1 year of use (and washing to remove bugs). if they do not have the right color get their plastic primer then use the "right" one. I have done both with good results.

taco 11-24-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bennelson (Post 341492)
It would be nice to have the lower grill block match. The car is basically red with black trim, and the existing lower grill was black, but yes, a red grill block would be good.

I wonder if I could get contact paper or something similar in a color that was close.

I still haven't tested whether or not spray paint melts coroplast or not!

I sprayed my white coroplast black. With krylon fusion also.
Stayed that way for 4 years. Still have that piece just not the truck it was made for.

So do you have to hold the stalk back the entire time to remain in ev. Or is it like click on and off

bennelson 11-24-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by taco (Post 341508)
So do you have to hold the stalk back the entire time to remain in ev. Or is it like click on and off

You pull and hold it for two seconds, then it clicks into EV mode and you can let go.

It's just a way to re-use and repurpose an existing switch or button, instead of drilling another hole in the dash. Keeps everything very clean looking. I like that it's "secret" too.

OK, you guys are mean, egging me on into painting that lower grill block. I ended going to both the hardware store and auto parts store. I got a can of dark red Krylon plastic spray paint. It was pretty close to the car color, but NOT metallic. At the hardware store, I also got stainless steel screws and washers for a rust-proof way to attach the grill block.

At the auto-parts store, I bought a can of metallic dark-red car spray paint. They didn't have all the Toyota factory colors there. I got a GM Dark Metallic Red that was pretty close.

I did a test of both paints on some scrap political sign material while painting the fasteners. The coroplast didn't melt or have any other negative reaction to either paint.

I pulled the grill block and gave it a couple coats of the metallic red.

Here's a photo of the new grill block removed to paint it.

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You can see the wood blocking used as a mounting point for the plastic.

Once the red paint on the coroplast was dry enough, I re-mounted it to the car.

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Oddly, the paint job looked much better to the naked eye. Once I looked at the photo, I noticed the paint drip and unevenness, but it actually looked pretty good just staring right at the car itself!

I may end up pulling it back off and adding another coat of paint.

The other thing I was wondering about was the gray pipe insulation in the upper grill block. Could I paint that foam as well? I don't know, so let's try it!

I pulled out some more foam, split it the long way and sprayed some of each of the two paints on it. Again, no melting or other negative reaction, so I sprayed the whole piece of foam red.

Once the two pieces are dry, I should be able to fold them in half and stuff them in the upper grill and have a CUSTOM PAINTED-TO-MATCH foam upper grill block!

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Also, I am covered in red paint. When I walked back into the house, I immediately told my wife, "Don't worry, I'm NOT bleeding. It's just paint." as I was holding my hand in the air with red liquid dripping down it..."

PPS: Here's a photo I put together from an image before and after I painted it.

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Weather Spotter 11-24-2012 06:33 PM

looks much better now :)

Daox 11-24-2012 06:53 PM

I agree. It looks pretty good. :thumbup:

Cobb 11-24-2012 08:02 PM

:You have snow tires, visible snow on the ground yet you covered the fog lamps. :eek:

bennelson 11-24-2012 08:49 PM

Glad you like it!

I'll post a photo tomorrow of the red-painted foam stuffed in the upper grill.

Here's another tip for you. If you are paint-shopping, pop out that little round piece in the front where the tow eye-bolt goes, and take it in the store with you. Use it as a portable body piece you can compare with the colors in the store.

It was pretty handy!


FOG LAMPS:
They don't do anything. This car has the HID headlights they are extremely bright and cut through snow and rain. I've tested them in various light, with and without the foglights on. With the HID headlights the fog-lights really don't so anything. I considered NOT covering the fog-lights because I think they are kinda neat looking, NOT that I ever actually use them!

bennelson 11-27-2012 08:14 AM

PAINTED UPPER GRILL-BLOCK

Here's a couple of photographs with both grill-blocks now painted to match the body color.

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This one shows the difference between the plain foam and painted foam. It also shows how some of the foam flaked off when I folded the foam to fit it back in.

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I've also tried out the EV Switch a couple of times in the last few days. It's really amazing for those times that I don't want the engine to come on at all. The 34 MPH top speed is a bit limiting. We have few 30 or 35 mph roads in my area, it's all 25, 45, and freeway. EV switch works GREAT in town, where it's all 25.

I did a trip the other day that was 9.5 miles total, with several stops. The engine came on once. (I hit 34 MPH) I pulled over, "rebooted", put it back into EV MODE and finished the trip, using next to no gasoline total.

Daox 11-27-2012 09:04 AM

Glad to hear the EV switch is coming in handy. It definitely has its limitations, but it can be put to good use.

For me, when my PHEV kit was working, I could travel the first ~1 mile of my 7 mile commute on EV mode. Then, when the speed limit kicks up to 45 mph the warm up time is pretty quick and that penalty is somewhat negated.

Cobb 11-27-2012 11:49 AM

Glad to hear they got that right. The newer insight I find fogs are necessary for some situations, however they discontinued them on the later US models, but offer them and a led drl outside the US. Any noticable effects on mpg with fogs on vs off? :D

Try this Daox, instead of going a steady speed in EV mode, accelerate to 5 over and use EV mode to hold your speed, then once you are down to 40 or so reaccelerate like a pulse n glide situation. With the limited EV mode on the i2 thats more or less how I milk it for mo mpg. :thumbup:

Yes I know the official EV mode has its limits, but as one who has driven a prius it will revert to ev use under light acceleration and turn off the ice at faster speeds. :snail:

Daox 11-27-2012 12:14 PM

At speeds that high the Prius really doesn't use electric assist much at all unless the pack is abnormally full. It likes to use more assist around town. I also have a very hilly commute and already coast down the hills.


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