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NeilBlanchard 09-05-2009 09:26 PM

Lancer Evo VIII hood vent
 
Hi,

I see that the (newest?) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII has what appears to be a radiator heat vent in the top of the hood:
http://www.ssip.net/upload/mitsubish...ront-1_124.jpg
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-conte...icture-107.jpg
While it is not ducted, do you think this either helps the cooling and/or helps the aerodynamics?

QuickLTD 09-05-2009 09:56 PM

That is the previous generation Evo. I think it is to promote better flow through the rad & intercooler (you can see the intercooler in the lower grille) by letting the hot air out. Here is the latest generation http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...a-6_460x0w.jpg

JasonG 09-05-2009 09:57 PM

Looks like cooling vents but for the intercooler not the radiator.

wdb 09-05-2009 10:00 PM

That's pretty far from the newest EVO. :) They vent the hot coming off all of the various radiating thingies in the front of the car: radiator, AC condenser, (huge) intercooler. Dunno what it does for aero dynamics but it can't help but be good for the airflow across all of those gizmos.

alohaspirit 09-05-2009 10:03 PM

i believe this is the current one

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9oU6gOK8Py...BEvolution.jpg

QuickLTD 09-05-2009 10:03 PM

Where does the Turbo sit on that car? Is it inbetween the heat exchangers and engine block? Could be another huge source of heat right there.

QuickLTD 09-05-2009 10:09 PM

ah ha. see theres the heat..

http://www.airpowersystems.com/us_spec/evo/engine.jpg

NeilBlanchard 09-06-2009 01:48 PM

Hi,

It's on the cover of the current Car & Driver, so it can't be that old?

Luxbg 09-06-2009 03:02 PM

The Evo VIII was in production from 2003 through 2005.

anthonye81 09-06-2009 05:27 PM

Do turbochargers generate much heat in themselves? I guess the exhaust gas turning the turbine slows down and sinks more heat into the manifold/turbine assembly, but wouldn't the compressor side of the turbo be reasonably cool?

Hermie 09-07-2009 06:35 PM

It's to reduce front-end lift by reducing underhood pressure, as well as increase cooling from greater ammounts of airflow. I installed some hood vents on my own car.

jtbo 04-11-2012 09:40 PM

This is rather old topic, but I think this link will provide some answers, however not all of them:

Evo 8 (very little aero, mostly marketing, but shows some pics from underside):
http://www.myevo.com/ecms/Lancer%20evo%20VIII.pdf

Current model:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/cor...008/20e_08.pdf

Of course one must remember that this vehicle is not designed for low cd, but for downforce and good cooling when driven hard, so while some elements are designed reduce cd those are mostly meant to reduce increase that comes when making downforce and as such may not apply to lowering cd purpose as they are.

I would think that with hood vent one could get away with smaller front opening for radiator and it might make possible to cover underside of engine bay better.

But what it do for air that goes to wheel wells, will it cause some issues there?

Also I have no idea how vent would affect topside aero, I would imagine that it might increase pressure at windshield and perhaps increase air that goes to sides and the top, where it might cause effect of mirrors and rear top and sides being larger than without vent, but it can be whole lot different from what I think as aero sometimes is not quite so what you think it would be.

jime57 04-12-2012 05:39 PM

According to Hucho, venting out the hood surface is the lowest Cd of all the ways to get warm air out of the engine compartment. So not only does it work from a cooling viewpoint, is is also good aero.

aerohead 04-12-2012 05:40 PM

vent
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard (Post 126078)
Hi,

I see that the (newest?) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII has what appears to be a radiator heat vent in the top of the hood:
http://www.ssip.net/upload/mitsubish...ront-1_124.jpg
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-conte...icture-107.jpg
While it is not ducted, do you think this either helps the cooling and/or helps the aerodynamics?

Kamm's lowest drag car had the radiator extractor at the base of the windshield.While this cowl area is at a relatively high static pressure,it is lower than the forward stagnation point,so the air does flow out,and Kamm used this flow to help energize the flow which might be prone to stall over the windshield header.This allowed his roofline to work better.He's remembered for the 'Kamm-back' but the accomplishment was the energetic flow which made the roof work.
Mitsubishi has positioned their vent forward,in a higher velocity/lower pressure area and it will provide an outlet.And it should cancel some lift,although most of that is produced just forward of the windshield header.
In a four-season climate,snow might enter,as well as rain.They may have internal guttering to carry precip away,it's hard to tell from the photo.
If the outlet was 'tuned' in the wind tunnel,it might have some potential for drag reduction but as others have mentioned,it may be more of a boy racer sort of thing.If it was tuned,then folks better leave the entire grille area alone.
Mitsubishi remains a player in aerospace.You may remember their products from December 7th,1941,at Pearl Harbor.
Mitsubishi also manufactures submarines for the Japanese navy.So they're not unacquainted with fluid mechanics and I would give them the benefit of the doubt when it came to aerodynamic prowess.
My opinion about cooling system efficiency is that Alberto Morreli(sp?) has set the standard in 1978 with the CNR 'banana' car.

jtbo 04-12-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerohead (Post 300075)
In a four-season climate,snow might enter,as well as rain.They may have internal guttering to carry precip away,it's hard to tell from the photo.

It has some kind of mesh on top and below that there are air guides, bit like half open blinds (note, photographer has not understood vent being outlet as he claims it being intake):
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX hood | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Bulge at front of vent is to increase low pressure area at hood vent from my understanding, which might help extract air bit better out.

Self made versions that mimic shaping of EVO hood scoop have been shown to be very effective in throwing snow upwards at speeds of 25mph and above, so it is not very problematic in terms of snow.

Those 'blinds' are probably important part when there is no tunnel, one can also do working vent by simply doing few cuts and pushing leading edge down, to make this kind of shape, but it is important that rear of each fin is not rising above hood level:
http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/wh...on-hot-rod.jpg

If there is small bulge added to leading edge side of vent (that is front) it will work more efficiently.

From my memory, rule was that half way of hood is where one should no longer add exhaust vents, from there to windshield it should be intake area, but of course exceptions may apply.

That is something I wish to experiment, just IC ducting comes on way that runs in hood.

Mario_Marques 04-13-2012 02:02 PM

In a mitsubishi lancer evo, everything you see works, it's not for show off.
I work with rally cars and believe me, lan evo is the closest thing to a wrc a "small amount of money" can buy(compared to a true wrc).
It's almost perfect for his kind of car.


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