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Miller88 11-20-2015 09:04 AM

Low-Ish Rolling Resistance Snow Tires
 
I searched and didn't find anything, so going to make a topic about it.

I just put GT Radial Champiro Icepro tires on the Focus. Because I wanted to get rid of the studded Firestone Winterforce I was running (kept digging up parking lots) and they were only $38.25 a piece, shipped.

The first thing I noticed is the low rolling resistance of these tires! My "summer" tires are Cooper Lifeline GLS all seasons. Here in Upstate NY, all season tires don't go so well in the snow and touring tires are a complete no.

I put these on and I was surprised at just how LOW the rolling resistance is. We had some cold temps over the weekend, and "normal" temps this week - I am surprised that my gas mileage has gone up. They roll quite well, too. I have had to start letting off the gas earlier on the Interstate and even rolling up to stop lights. They aren't inflated high, either. Right to 40 front, 32 rear.

These are a HUGE improvement in RR over the studded Winterforce. I went from no-higher than 32 in commuting to 35 in commuting. And I won't be digging up parking lots! Someone else will.

What other low-ish rolling resistance snow tires are there? I believe the Michelin X-Ice line is pretty low rolling resistance.

MetroMPG 11-20-2015 11:22 AM

Nokian Hakka R's are supposedly the bees knees for LRR.

So much so that this CRX had them on during the summer to win an economy competition.

Some Nokian winters have an "ULTRA LOW rolling resistance" stamp on the sidewall.

Ecky 11-21-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 499957)
Nokian Hakka R's are supposedly the bees knees for LRR.

So much so that this CRX had them on during the summer to win an economy competition.

Some Nokian winters have an "ULTRA LOW rolling resistance" stamp on the sidewall.

I saw this thread title and was going to post that very thing.

I'm running a set of Nokian Nordman 5's on my Insight because the Hakkapeliittas are not (yet?) available in 165/65/14. As I understand it, Nordmans are the older Hakkapeliitta tires rebranded. On a level stretch at 50mph in clear weather with temperatures around freezing, I'm getting 85-90mpg (vs ~100mpg with RE92's) on brand new (not yet broken in) winter tires.

My impression has been that, as far as winter tires go, Nokian generally leads the pack in most metrics.

Miller88 11-23-2015 02:40 PM

Nokians make the best snow tires, IMO!

I was going to get a set, but saving $400 by going with the chesp ones ... really couldn't go wrong there!

NeilBlanchard 11-24-2015 12:46 PM

The Nokian Hakka R2's are a bit better on rolling resistance than the Hakka R's.

star_deceiver 11-29-2015 11:01 PM

My studded Hakka 8's (265-70-17) have LRR on the sidewall. Fuelly tracked per tank mileage has dropped max 1 mpg but it's better than last year with the studded Winterforce.

Miller88 11-30-2015 09:35 AM

Well, now I am a bit worried about how these GT Radial snow tires are going to do in the snow. They are quite quiet. I got 40MPG round trip to my parents - which is generally a summer only thing.

I just gave my two remaining ones away. They had bad belts. They are going to a friend's $375 Neon Peon project car for winter.

Pretty sure those doubled the value.

Ryland 11-30-2015 03:17 PM

I have a set off old Michelin x-ice snow tires and my mileage stays the same as my summer lrr tires, the newer x-ice green line are supposed to be even better.
Silica in the rubber is supposed to be one of the key things to look for.

Miller88 12-01-2015 02:53 PM

I could have got the X-Ice pretty cheap but always heard they aren't the best in deep snow. We're more snow country than ice country here.

GearheadTool 12-01-2015 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miller88 (Post 500974)
I could have got the X-Ice pretty cheap but always heard they aren't the best in deep snow. We're more snow country than ice country here.



Miller88! How is BITOG going? :)

rmay635703 12-01-2015 07:04 PM

Where the bloody hell do you get Nokian hakka r2's?

I only see them "call for details" from obscure dealers with no price listed here in Wisconsin at least.

Even discount tire lists them that way.

Bleh.

GearheadTool 12-01-2015 07:06 PM

Can any LRR tires be had in 31×10.5R15LT....

GearheadTool 12-01-2015 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmay635703 (Post 501003)
Where the bloody hell do you get Nokian hakka r2's?

I only see them "call for details" from obscure dealers with no price listed here in Wisconsin at least.

Even discount tire lists them that way.

Bleh.

Google it, my friend.

https://www.tiresavings.com/tireShop...FYX2HwodKSMHXA

And there were three other results...

rmay635703 12-02-2015 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GearheadTool (Post 501004)
Can any LRR tires be had in 31×10.5R15LT....

No but tires that are moderately close in size (pmetric) can be had that are LRRish.

Question is if its on what I think its on the load rating is probably very important over LRR, although you may get away with LRR on the front like i did with my suburban.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GearheadTool (Post 501005)
Google it, my friend.

https://www.tiresavings.com/tireShop...FYX2HwodKSMHXA

And there were three other results...

I did google and got all sorts of places that were out of stock or call to order with no price.

Holy crap batman those are pricey, and no mile wear warranty either, I remember the $35 fleet farm desert dog winter tires we had on the suburban that lasted 12 years, I doubt these will survive like those :)

Miller88 12-02-2015 03:31 PM

Nokians are great tires. Unfortunately, they are significantly more expensive than other options and Nokian has a very poor distribution network in the USA :(

Their price often makes them not a viable option for most. I like to run good snow tires, but when I can bank $400 for a set of tires ...

roosterk0031 12-02-2015 03:35 PM

http://simpletire.com


Cheapest place I've found

Ecky 12-02-2015 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roosterk0031 (Post 501104)

TireRack beats them on every tire that fits my car, even if only by a few cents in some cases. Dunlop Ensaves are $30 cheaper per tire, and TireRack has winter tire options too. Only thing they lack are the cheap Chinese tires.

roosterk0031 12-02-2015 09:52 PM

I was only talking about Nokians, tirerack doesn't carry them.


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