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Old 10-29-2021, 07:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Toyota BZ4X - Official Specs

We know a bit more about Toyota's first vehicle built on their e-TNGA platform:

4232 lbs
71.4 kWh battery
Fast charges 0-80% in 30 minutes at 150 Kw

FWD:
201 hp, 315 mile range, 0-60 in 8.4 seconds

AWD:
214 hp, 285 mile ranger, 0-60 in 7.7 seconds

Ranges are WLTP

Something interesting in the reveal video is that Toyota is targeting 90% remaining battery capacity after 10 years.

MISC:
HVAC from heat pump
Optional steering yoke and steer by wire
Optional solar panel on top

Toyota Reveal video here


Toyota press release here:
https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/toyota/36254760.html






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Terrible name if that's an actual name.

I also don't understand how heat pumps are more efficient unless it's just because they are slower and less effective. I can see they might be simpler but in extreme heat or extreme cold historically they struggle to give you the rapid final temperature you really want. I can see lots of owners in Phoenix complaining the AC doesn't feel as cold and people in Montana saying the heater stinks. Maybe they have gotten much better with them, but then I have to ask, why aren't they more common in new construction homes in those areas? Seems like they are a more mild climate solution to heating and cooling.
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Terrible name if that's an actual name.

I also don't understand how heat pumps are more efficient unless it's just because they are slower and less effective. I can see they might be simpler but in extreme heat or extreme cold historically they struggle to give you the rapid final temperature you really want. I can see lots of owners in Phoenix complaining the AC doesn't feel as cold and people in Montana saying the heater stinks. Maybe they have gotten much better with them, but then I have to ask, why aren't they more common in new construction homes in those areas? Seems like they are a more mild climate solution to heating and cooling.
Heat pumps are more efficient because they use the phase change of a gas to move heat.

I switched my current house from a natural gas furnace to a heat pump. Super efficient and rated down to -10F and it doesn't have a back-up resistance heater. We've had no problems so far in 6 years. It worked fine when we hit temperatures of 115F this year.


Our other houses had older style heat pumps with resistant heater backups for temperatures below freezing.

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Toyota, latest out the gate.

Apparently "BZ" is to be their branding for all their electrics?
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Toyota, latest out the gate.

Apparently "BZ" is to be their branding for all their electrics?
Yes. BZ stand for Beyond Zero. 4 is the relative size / position in the lineup and X is for crossover.
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Pity new car buyers aren't more into something like a BZ2C.
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I finally watched the video to find out why that inverter/controller is mounted so high and all they say is 'lower hoodline, don't believe your lying eyes'. Even the restructuring clip toward the end never resolves that.

The four 'You and...'s framing device is a window into the mindset of their perceived customer base. Interesting.
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The inverter is in the front stacked on top of the motor so the battery pack can be thin allowing for a flat floor, without a hump for more internal passenger volume.



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Man, that front drive unit looks huge compared with the combined motor drive unit of a Tesla or Lucid's Air.


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