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suspectnumber961 12-24-2009 01:41 PM

Make a throttle detent spring...save some gas....
 
I FINALLY got permission from the IGC to reveal to the human race some of our more advanced technology. But REMEMBER....this is only a test to see if humans are able to utilize these higher levels of thought application. Pass this test and who knows how far humanity can advance.

http://www.nonags.org/members/nijqk/throttlespring2.jpg

This is applied to my 4x4 wagon...which is actually an advanced transportation device that has been disguised for use on the planet Earth. :thumbup:

........

How to do it:

* will likely need to remove the air cleaner in order to drill a hole for the spring in the edge of the heat stove

* the spring is probably from an old screen door (wooden type)...this seems to have about the right "pull". You should use around a 5" length of spring. Will probably need to make a loop for one end after cutting it to length.

* The bottom end of the spring needs to be "crimped" to stay on the heat shield...since there has to be some slack in the linkage in order for it to work

* I use heavy copper wire to make the link at top...easier to adjust the length...but strong enough to hold it's shape


So what does it do? Just gives your lead foot a reminder of where the best throttle position might be for the best mpg...but can be over ridden at any time if needed. Seems to me that I have around 75-85% full power at maybe 1/4th or less throttle....keeps you out of the secondary?

You need to adjust it to your preferences...for a 1.5L probably somewhere past the throttle position needed to maintain 55 mph...for a V6 or V8...just about at that point.

Works much like a vacuum gauge...you just don't need to watch it all the time.

This could be set up on any engine that isn't fly by wire...just need to find room for the spring and find a place on the engine to tie the end down. You do probably need the spring to be around 5" or longer so the tension doesn't increase too much at WOT.

*Need to be sure you will have no interference with throttle operation...install at your own risk.

luvit 12-24-2009 06:15 PM

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:D...urt-cobain.jpg
as a maverick from the IGC, i also have superior intellect.
but maybe i need another angle of this photo that may be a little further away.
is that convenient?
?

suspectnumber961 12-24-2009 09:05 PM

The concept is simple...just a spring put on the throttle linkage with some adjustable slack so the extra resistance doesn't occur until you have some throttle movement. This is specific to a Tercel 3AC manual....no way to get another pic due to limited access...would look just the same.

In the pic the throttle linkage moves UP as it opens...the "ball" thingie is on the throttle shaft.

The idea works on any engine with a throttle linkage. The old screen door springs are about the right "pull"...can't be too strong or too weak...around a 5" length to allow needed movement. I also had this on a Nissan V6 auto...worked real well.

mcrews 12-24-2009 11:00 PM

simply amazing how you advanced cultures for distant planets are able to use RUST so seccessfully in deguising stufff.

lol

Christ 12-24-2009 11:26 PM

Fly-by-wire models need to put the spring on the pedal assembly, not on the throttle assembly.

suspectnumber961 12-25-2009 06:57 AM

We have many other cloaking devices...being friendly with the Romulans.

Cloaking device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My IGC provided 4x4 wagon only APPEARS to be a cheap POS...do not let appearances deceive you.

mcrews 12-25-2009 08:23 AM

Alright....now your scaring me......

W. P. Duratt, My High School Principal, and a highly respected educator in Dallas, ALWAYS ended his morning announcements with....."it's later than you think"

suspectnumber961 12-31-2009 01:13 PM

Update..................
 
Installed a spring on my pickup...put this one on the throttle rod above the pedal...with the spring anchored on a steel dash brace up under the dash. Made a "loop" to attach the spring at the pedal rod...using a small hose clap to hold it on.

Both vehicles (1.5 L and 2.4L-4x4s) are set to engage at around the same throttle position as at 55 mph in 5th gear.

With both I intend to shift at around 2.5K which is where both run in 5th at 55 mph...seems the combo is power enough to get down the road OK.

Expect both to save around 2-3 mpg vs more typical driving.

Probably a good idea to use a very small turnbuckle to adjust these...since the "slop" is only a fraction of an inch.

Specs for the truck:

vac at idle = 21 HG

vac at 55 mph in 5th = 10 to 14 HG....O2 cycles at this vac level...not if it goes below this though.

pstrbrc 12-31-2009 04:38 PM

couldn't you just, umm... like, I mean, put a small doggy chew toy under the... ummm... tall skinny pedal? That way it would squeak when you went too fast, also.

MadisonMPG 12-31-2009 05:11 PM

You couldn't put 100% throttle if you needed to.

pstrbrc 01-01-2010 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadisonMPG (Post 151078)
You couldn't put 100% throttle if you needed to.

We're ecomodders. We don' need no stinkin' 100% throttle.

Christ 01-01-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pstrbrc (Post 151071)
couldn't you just, umm... like, I mean, put a small doggy chew toy under the... ummm... tall skinny pedal? That way it would squeak when you went too fast, also.

You know they only squeak if you press the pedal "ricer fast", right?

atfab 01-06-2010 08:34 AM

Years ago, I was newly divorced, the old lady got the car and broke. I sold my motorcycle and picked up a two year old 78 Buick Century cheap and a part time second job. It had a 350 cid with an aftermarket four barrel carb with mechanical linkage for the secondaries. I found a universal throttle spring in the parts store, attached it to the lift ring on the front of the motor and attached it to the secondary linkage so it would just add some resistance when the secondaries started to move. I didn't keep track of the actual MPG's but my normal weekly fill ups were almost a quarter of a tank less due to my feeling that extra "weight" in the pedal.

Christ 01-06-2010 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atfab (Post 152321)
Years ago, I was newly divorced, the old lady got the car and broke. I sold my motorcycle and picked up a two year old 78 Buick Century cheap and a part time second job. It had a 350 cid with an aftermarket four barrel carb with mechanical linkage for the secondaries. I found a universal throttle spring in the parts store, attached it to the lift ring on the front of the motor and attached it to the secondary linkage so it would just add some resistance when the secondaries started to move. I didn't keep track of the actual MPG's but my normal weekly fill ups were almost a quarter of a tank less due to my feeling that extra "weight" in the pedal.

The problem here is that these are related solely to psychological effects... it relies solely on the thought that the person operating the vehicle won't manufacture a reason to need to defeat it by further pressing the pedal.

It won't work for everyone for that reason.

suspectnumber961 01-07-2010 09:21 AM

I doubt if anyone other than the govt is going to put a detent spring in your car. So...if you install one yourself...you've demonstrated the INTENTION of saving gas?

I'd really like to be driving a fast car and not worry about wasting fuel...but being cheap and looking a bit into the future...I'm adjusting.

I like the G forces as much as anyone...but it eventually seems pointless to see how fast you can get from A to B...when there is no real reason for it....except for the RAT RACE.

My advice? Quit racing with the rats...you just ain't gonna win. :cool:

luvit 01-08-2010 10:39 AM

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:D...urt-cobain.jpg
the government does put spring like devices in cars. that's how they read our minds and control us through brain waves.

i wear this when i drive:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:D...infoil-hat.jpg

bestclimb 01-08-2010 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvit (Post 152887)
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:D...urt-cobain.jpg
the government does put spring like devices in cars. that's how they read our minds and control us through brain waves.

i wear this when i drive:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:D...infoil-hat.jpg

Shiny side in to reflect brain waves back into the hat otherwise your cap may work as an aerial and make it easier to detect your brain waves. Also aluminum is not near as effective as a true tin foil hat, which comes in a second to a lead/antimony hat. Trouble with the lead hats is that they are very heavy and and people tend to quit wearing them after a short time.


Quote:

We're ecomodders. We don' need no stinkin' 100% throttle.
I have used 100% on two occasions to get myself out of the way of someone pulling out without looking.

suspectnumber961 01-09-2010 04:42 AM

Be very careful and DO NOT put the shiny side IN!

Remember. We only want what is best for humans. :thumbup:

atfab 01-09-2010 12:42 PM

I would not defeat WOT on my car, or carry an unloaded gun. Both can get you killed and that isn't a psychological effect.

Christ 01-09-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suspectnumber961 (Post 153135)
Be very careful and DO NOT put the shiny side IN!

This side effectively reflects brain waves...and with your powerful brain...your head could easily overheat. Shiny side out ONLY! This reflects influences from without...so the govt _cannot_ control you.

This is known to all of my species...from taking the brain waves 101 class....required before we are assigned to a planet.

Remember. We only want what is best for humans. :thumbup:

Do you happen to have a book called "How to Serve Man"?

Do you know the recipe for Soylent Green?

suspectnumber961 01-10-2010 09:19 AM

The recipe for Soylent Green should be common knowledge among humans...it will be useful one day....within some members lifetimes.

As far as a throttle detent keeping you from using WOT...anyone getting in either of my vehicles without knowing that there WAS a detent spring...probably wouldn't even notice them.

I only post something like this so anyone who has the sense to use one might get the idea to do so...not to argue about the obvious. As far as the alien persona...hey a guys got to have some fun...eh? :D

I've mentioned the detent spring idea several times before the recent installs...and have gotten about the same responses from maybe the same people...not as much "doing" as talking?

mcrews 01-10-2010 10:22 AM

I had a 99 jag XJ Vanden Plas at the same time I had my infiniti Q45. Both had MPG meters built in. But the jag seemed to have a tighter spring on the gas pedal than the Q. It made sense to me as the jag was a much more sedate car that the Q.



AND what's the crap about a "persona"........are you OR arent you an ALIEN??????



I am so confused.......



First somebody claims before Christmas that Frank Lee isn't a Redneck.......


then the damn Alien claims to have a persona.........


what is this forum comin to????????

luvit 01-10-2010 11:23 AM

i;m not sure i follow.

Christ 01-10-2010 05:01 PM

Ok, before the confusion keeps going, I just want to make it clear that I am NOT a religious figure.

I see how one could be confused about my divinity, but I assure you all, I'm not that guy.

luvit 01-10-2010 05:34 PM

i think ecomodder needs a confession booth.

mcrews 01-10-2010 08:03 PM

Amen!

suspectnumber961 01-11-2010 03:45 AM

Life sure is confusing. ;)

oldbeaver 01-11-2010 06:23 PM

The simpler, the better.
 
Yeah, it is very simple, but nobody thought of it before.

And, it produces results.

Good!


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