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Making the Toyota Previa mid engine van into a Ferrari SUV, photoshop idea.
How are you guys liking the aerodynamics on this concept... $800 Previa van with some chopping and bending of the roof line... put on a CNC'd kit and viola?
Ideally I'd like to crowd fund an open source (videos) on how to make this kit car. http://i.imgur.com/TbM56EZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DOP2doc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nYjX1XD.jpg |
What does the viola do for it? :confused:
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Viola in the context of if its actually possible to have such a slick SUV and for it to be a safe road legal car.
Here's a stock Previa with a new face. http://i.imgur.com/PW5JPx5.jpg |
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...psbqsihube.jpg
Crowd fund? Wouldn't you just do it and record the progress? :confused: |
Im too poor.
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I like your Photoshop and 3D skills !
As far as this concept, how aboat start small and work your way into things ? Take the car that you drive now, and modify it. Even something as simple as a grille block or wheel covers can take days to figure out sometimes. :snail: I really like the look of the design though. Keep up the art ! |
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Voila / viola :thumbup: |
Frank is messing with you. "Viola" = a stringed instrument a little larger than a violin. Like the relationship between a cornet and a trumpet.
SYK, "voila" = French phrase meaning "see there." Unfortunately some people get it even wronger and spell it "walla," which makes me want to punch my computer in the throat for even displaying something so dumb. You are aware the front seats of the Previa sit right on top of that engine hump, right? Is there even enough headroom to lower the roof like you show? Be advised that some of my concern stems from the previous generation Toyota Van (TownAce to non-American drivers), in which the engine hump is even higher. |
Violas are defiantly my favorite. It's like you took a double base, shrinked it, and walla! Viola!
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So... back on topic. :thumbup: |
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Im around 5,10 in height, and there's considerable headroom inside the van so I think it should be okay. I have an extreme conversion idea where the engine would actually be moved further back to make a jumbo sized supercar design. VWVortex.com - Vortex'ers, converting a mid engine van (Previa) into a jumbo sized sports car? VZX content. Quote:
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http://i.imgur.com/DOP2doc.jpg
The bottom pic is the clearest exposition of your concept. By my onscreen measurement, the wheelbase discrepancy is 94%. The discrepancy in wheel diameter is 88%. Imagine a mannequin into the driver's seat. The windshield header will be coincident with the driver's forehead. But enough about the details. There are things that are hard to move on a car body, like the cowl height and beltline. That's why you see show cars that are sectioned or have a chopped top, but what you don't see as much are slab sides and beltlines resculpted as you show. Try this: Start with the stock Previa body and apply a slant chop. The stock roofline's highest point is over the middle seats. Essentially you would cut a slit across the top of the windshield and take 6-8" out of the rear posts. The rear seat disappears and the middle seat moves down and back (else a shag carpet and water bed interior). The roof could follow Thee Holy Template which would gain a lot of cred on Ecomodder. I would then graft in the rear hatch from a Dodge Magnum since I rilly dig those. The aggressive fender flares could be body-kitted over the slab sides. You could start the slant chop at the bottom of the windshield, but good luck with that. Edit: Oh, my. You could have started over fresh at Ecomodder, but you posted that VWVortex thread. They're not very polite to you there, are they? So the way I get it is that you are living in the Previa in question, with a CNC router taking up the whole back end. Is that about it? |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaW_35KPDBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83dDHKFeWcM But, it's not exactly a new concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnqdIsBJT0A |
Okay, now that I've read some of the Vortex thread--what do you intend here? To make a van that has some styling cues from a Ferrari? Or a van that will get around a track as fast as a car, or at least faster than it can now? The latter seems like it would be a much more rewarding project.
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Purely for looks!
I havent had time to read the rest of the thread yet... but here is the Vortex thread I made about this also. http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...hart-you-think I think finding a Prius in the junkyard and replanting its canopy would be the best option. http://i.imgur.com/NPTiqFb.jpg Here is a picture of me sitting above the engine without the thick seats... if I adopt some sport seats, the inside distance to the windshield and roof should be decent. http://i.imgur.com/UYxZzuv.jpg edit Prius top http://i.imgur.com/GD8D2aC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/jVDieJa.jpg |
http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...1396746884.jpg
How about this? Cut the Previa body all around 6-8" above the rocker panel. Obtain somehow a front-engined Japanese two seat coupe, an XZ or a VX or something and drop it on. Cut out the floorboards of the coupe to acccess the mid-engine as necessary. This will raise the wheelwells on the coupe body to clear your donk-mobile rims. |
That VW van looks nice... but I need to keep costs as low as possible.
Chopping the top and welding in the Prius should take care of all the major body work needed. The rest would be an add on body-kit and new headlights. http://i.imgur.com/b0o8b5U.jpg Quote:
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Have you compared widths? It would only take a discrepancy of 3-4" to complexify things. If you want to use Prius power windows, those will be in the doors. Then you are looking at whether the door cutlines match. Good luck. |
I certainly do not want to discourage your ideas, but I have to ask ... why ? Why that you are set on doing this project when you don't have the money ?
( I am 'poor' myself ! ) Have you welded before ? What about doing custom fabrication ? I have my own fantasy project car, but it would take every penny I own to create it. http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...shop-6720.html I made a physical model of it, and a 3D model as well for aerodynamic testing. I haven't read much of this thread, so maybe I am misunderstanding, but I would think that your skill would be better used designing these vehicles in 2D / 3D. Another idea of mine : http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...hape-5924.html I like your art. I really do, and I think others will too. Please do not feel discouraged. I just think you are exerting a lot of time and effort on something that is better left as a concept. |
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The Prius top falls into Previa which is important... but hopefully adapting the windows wont be too difficult. Previa width 71-68= 3 inch difference. Previa wheelbase 112-106= 6 inche difference I did some quick overlays and this is the angle of the roof line where the Prius window aligns to the Previa. Looks okay. http://i.imgur.com/BI9OkRP.jpg Quote:
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I'll have to contract the welding and fabricating out... the rest I may be able to do myself. Quote:
Here's a 3D I put together with the Lambo SUV face. Previa Concept - Video Dailymotion http://i.imgur.com/awFm1z7.jpg |
They call it Daily Motion, but I can't get the thing to play. :confused: I can scrub the timeline, though; but I can't tell if it's a series of still pictures as it appears.
Everything appears to happen between 14 and 16 seconds. If you expand that, lose the cardboard people, bar and stripper stage, then it will demonstrate what you want to do much better. And the still pictures? Do you know what 'greebling' is? Too much of that. Aligning the door cut-line at the B-pillar is a good strategy. Are you going to retain the slider side door, or have any doors in back? You can graft the Prius window into the Previa door in front. Have a look at the Ring brother's wide-body Mustang. Quote:
Cd -- I remember the Karmann Ghia thread. Good times. But I hadn't seen the Which mass produced car is closest to a teardrop shape ? thread from 2008-10. Thanks for that. When Arcimoto ships the SRK with my number on it, I want full wheel pants, smooth nose and full boat tail in 30s style hammered aluminum. Then that will be it. |
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I never learned how to model, so I just merge and bend designs together in Sketchup. Quote:
I made another design change... but I havent properly sized out the true dimensions of the canopy and interior space needed for the occupants. Previa Concept 2 - Video Dailymotion http://i.imgur.com/0iH0g1D.jpg |
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How much visibility would that have? Would a shorter driver be able to see over the steering wheel?
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More importantly, would a short driver be seen in it? :)
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Probably not :(
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The concept in the fusion here is lower so its roof height looks specially low... I'll have to properly measure seats, occupant seating height and cabin roof space next time. http://i.imgur.com/OUUlSP4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6DUWpvz.jpg |
Looks like the roof is too low... thats me sitting between the seats, on the floor above the engine.
http://i.imgur.com/2piiJbJ.jpg |
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